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It is already very difficult to distribute your own content without subjecting it to some other entity's distribution system, and soon it will be impossible. Ch

by 5ilv3r 9y ago

It is already very difficult to distribute your own content without subjecting it to some other entity's distribution system, and soon it will be impossible. Chrome and friends will refuse to load unsigned content, and then the death of the free web will be complete.

ascagnel_ 9y ago
> Chrome and friends will refuse to load unsigned content, and then the death of the free web will be complete. I'm going to need some citations that this is even remotely in the plan (and requiring HTTPS isn't the same as refusing to load unsigned content, since that's on the transport level).
- mimsee 9y ago
  I don't think he ever said HTTPS. By "unsigned content" he meant that video files for example can't be played unless a Hollywood rightowner has granted playback access for the file. However in the future this DRM will be an freedom-of-speech issue. The goverment could use it as means to silence people. North-Korea is currently ahead of us. Any videos you take could be automatically signed and later on pulled by the gov. by revoking the signature. Now extending this to basic text, images, VR?, and whatever new mediaformats there will be in the future. I highly recommend watching video where a tablet from North-Korea gets inspected. It explains how NK keeps control of its citizens. https://youtu.be/fAtWwadP6CY https://youtu.be/fAtWwadP6CY
  - ascagnel_ 9y ago
    I only mentioned HTTPS in the sense that browsers now actively push users away from unsecured transport connections. And please provide some example of any browser vendor making moves to block/delist unsigned videos/photos for _any_ reason.
conductr 9y ago
I'm not knowledgeable enough to fully disagree. However, I do not feel it is the browsers job to ignore a potentially useful technology (albeit for some evil media companies) because you have a distribution/marketing problem with your own content. I think they will instead include this tech and make it usable for those who want it and continue supporting non-DRM media for those who don't want it. They're not going to block your ability to share your content without DRM.
- mimsee 9y ago
  > They're not going to block your ability to share your content without DRM. Of course not. Then they would block all of YouTube, Twitch, Vimeo along with all other video sharing platforms, not to mention adult ones. It would hit home too hard to require DRM be installed right away. But on the long run?
  - tdy721 9y ago
    adult ones See: Great Britian I would love to see how that's working out for them, but even to wonder about the experiment borders on paedophilia. This is a tough nut to crack. (punintended...)
floatboth 9y ago
> Chrome and friends will refuse to load unsigned content This statement is SO RIDICULOUS it just broke my brain. How?! Why?! Even the evil movie companies don't want to prevent you from sharing your home video online.

by 5ilv3r 9y ago

ascagnel_ 9y ago

> Chrome and friends will refuse to load unsigned content, and then the death of the free web will be complete. I'm going to need some citations that this is even remotely in the plan (and requiring HTTPS isn't the same as refusing to load unsigned content, since that's on the transport level).

mimsee 9y ago
I don't think he ever said HTTPS. By "unsigned content" he meant that video files for example can't be played unless a Hollywood rightowner has granted playback access for the file. However in the future this DRM will be an freedom-of-speech issue. The goverment could use it as means to silence people. North-Korea is currently ahead of us. Any videos you take could be automatically signed and later on pulled by the gov. by revoking the signature. Now extending this to basic text, images, VR?, and whatever new mediaformats there will be in the future. I highly recommend watching video where a tablet from North-Korea gets inspected. It explains how NK keeps control of its citizens. https://youtu.be/fAtWwadP6CY https://youtu.be/fAtWwadP6CY
- ascagnel_ 9y ago
  I only mentioned HTTPS in the sense that browsers now actively push users away from unsecured transport connections. And please provide some example of any browser vendor making moves to block/delist unsigned videos/photos for _any_ reason.

conductr 9y ago

I'm not knowledgeable enough to fully disagree. However, I do not feel it is the browsers job to ignore a potentially useful technology (albeit for some evil media companies) because you have a distribution/marketing problem with your own content. I think they will instead include this tech and make it usable for those who want it and continue supporting non-DRM media for those who don't want it. They're not going to block your ability to share your content without DRM.

mimsee 9y ago
> They're not going to block your ability to share your content without DRM. Of course not. Then they would block all of YouTube, Twitch, Vimeo along with all other video sharing platforms, not to mention adult ones. It would hit home too hard to require DRM be installed right away. But on the long run?
- tdy721 9y ago
  adult ones See: Great Britian I would love to see how that's working out for them, but even to wonder about the experiment borders on paedophilia. This is a tough nut to crack. (punintended...)

floatboth 9y ago

> Chrome and friends will refuse to load unsigned content This statement is SO RIDICULOUS it just broke my brain. How?! Why?! Even the evil movie companies don't want to prevent you from sharing your home video online.