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Exactly like React - means the language will be abandoned by wider community. The Facebook peeps are gradually building themselves into corporate self-invented

Exactly like React - means the language will be abandoned by wider community. The Facebook peeps are gradually building themselves into corporate self-invented mono-culture.

m00x 9y ago
I'd like to see any concrete numbers on this. I'm seeing React getting stronger and stronger in my area, and patent worries are mostly accepted as crazy hypotheticals.
- georgebarnett 9y ago
  Do you work with any lawyers in your company or peer group? I doubt they view the patent issue as "crazy hypotheticals".
  - abritinthebay 9y ago
    The only lawyers I know with software patent experience consider the fuss absolutely rediculous. It gives you more rights. Full stop, end of story.
- dreamfactored 9y ago
  Wordpress are just starting what could easily be a multi-year rewrite as a result and Drupal has specifically excluded React from evaluation - both on the basis of the patent issues
  - true_religion 9y ago
    True, but PHP development has always been split from the rest of the web-dev community. React has managed to bring together people in C#, Python, Ruby, and Erlang to name a few languages... who all previously used different frameworks, or just jQuery.
  - sneak 9y ago
    Yes, it is clearly in wordpress' best interests to spend all that time and money to preserve their very important right to sue facebook for violating wordpress' software patents in the future. /sarcasm
- sneak 9y ago
  Anyone who would wield the bullshit that is a software patent against facebook in a lawsuit deserves to lose licenses to everything. Fact of the matter is, it's just posturing. Software patents are utter bullshit and the facebook license clause reflects this.
- xorcist 9y ago
  So would I. But patents scare people, and rightly so. This is a multi horse race and even if you are not scared of patents it might be unwise to bet on the horse you think will scare other people. (Case in point, Wordpress.)
grrowl 9y ago
I have met very few people personally who are turned off by the patents thing. The only valid concern would be if your company has (or might have) patents which they might sue Facebook over. More interesting companies could conflict with this, but clearly many React users don't have a problem.

Exactly like React - means the language will be abandoned by wider community. The Facebook peeps are gradually building themselves into corporate self-invented mono-culture.

m00x 9y ago

I'd like to see any concrete numbers on this. I'm seeing React getting stronger and stronger in my area, and patent worries are mostly accepted as crazy hypotheticals.

georgebarnett 9y ago
Do you work with any lawyers in your company or peer group? I doubt they view the patent issue as "crazy hypotheticals".
- abritinthebay 9y ago
  The only lawyers I know with software patent experience consider the fuss absolutely rediculous. It gives you more rights. Full stop, end of story.
dreamfactored 9y ago
Wordpress are just starting what could easily be a multi-year rewrite as a result and Drupal has specifically excluded React from evaluation - both on the basis of the patent issues
- true_religion 9y ago
  True, but PHP development has always been split from the rest of the web-dev community. React has managed to bring together people in C#, Python, Ruby, and Erlang to name a few languages... who all previously used different frameworks, or just jQuery.
- sneak 9y ago
  Yes, it is clearly in wordpress' best interests to spend all that time and money to preserve their very important right to sue facebook for violating wordpress' software patents in the future. /sarcasm
sneak 9y ago
Anyone who would wield the bullshit that is a software patent against facebook in a lawsuit deserves to lose licenses to everything. Fact of the matter is, it's just posturing. Software patents are utter bullshit and the facebook license clause reflects this.
xorcist 9y ago
So would I. But patents scare people, and rightly so. This is a multi horse race and even if you are not scared of patents it might be unwise to bet on the horse you think will scare other people. (Case in point, Wordpress.)

grrowl 9y ago

I have met very few people personally who are turned off by the patents thing. The only valid concern would be if your company has (or might have) patents which they might sue Facebook over. More interesting companies could conflict with this, but clearly many React users don't have a problem.