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That and PATENTS: https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/blob/master/hphp/hack/PATENTS https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/blob/master/hphp/hack/PATEN...

zimbatm 9y ago
If Facebook had released the code under BSD then nobody would have complained. But this basically gives a BSD plus patent grant, and reverts to BSD if there are any patent litigations. And now people are complaining.
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- s73ver_ 9y ago
  Because it is them saying, "We can take all of your patents, but if you sue us for it, then you don't get to use this."
  - jbergens 9y ago
    IANAL. I think that is a common misunderstanding of the clause. If you sue them for react patents you can still use HHVM, or vice versa. https://medium.com/@dwalsh.sdlr/react-facebook-and-the-revokable-patent-license-why-its-a-paper-25c40c50b562 https://medium.com/@dwalsh.sdlr/react-facebook-and-the-revok...
  - abritinthebay 9y ago
    Not even close to true
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cstrasen 9y ago
Woah. Its bad enough with react which many did not expect. Now also this BS. No thanks really.
dingdingdang 9y ago
Exactly like React - means the language will be abandoned by wider community. The Facebook peeps are gradually building themselves into corporate self-invented mono-culture.
- m00x 9y ago
  I'd like to see any concrete numbers on this. I'm seeing React getting stronger and stronger in my area, and patent worries are mostly accepted as crazy hypotheticals.
  - georgebarnett 9y ago
    Do you work with any lawyers in your company or peer group? I doubt they view the patent issue as "crazy hypotheticals".
    - abritinthebay 9y ago
      The only lawyers I know with software patent experience consider the fuss absolutely rediculous. It gives you more rights. Full stop, end of story.
  - dreamfactored 9y ago
    Wordpress are just starting what could easily be a multi-year rewrite as a result and Drupal has specifically excluded React from evaluation - both on the basis of the patent issues
    - true_religion 9y ago
      True, but PHP development has always been split from the rest of the web-dev community. React has managed to bring together people in C#, Python, Ruby, and Erlang to name a few languages... who all previously used different frameworks, or just jQuery.
    - sneak 9y ago
      Yes, it is clearly in wordpress' best interests to spend all that time and money to preserve their very important right to sue facebook for violating wordpress' software patents in the future. /sarcasm

zimbatm 9y ago

If Facebook had released the code under BSD then nobody would have complained. But this basically gives a BSD plus patent grant, and reverts to BSD if there are any patent litigations. And now people are complaining.

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s73ver_ 9y ago
Because it is them saying, "We can take all of your patents, but if you sue us for it, then you don't get to use this."
- jbergens 9y ago
  IANAL. I think that is a common misunderstanding of the clause. If you sue them for react patents you can still use HHVM, or vice versa. https://medium.com/@dwalsh.sdlr/react-facebook-and-the-revokable-patent-license-why-its-a-paper-25c40c50b562 https://medium.com/@dwalsh.sdlr/react-facebook-and-the-revok...
- abritinthebay 9y ago
  Not even close to true
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cstrasen 9y ago

Woah. Its bad enough with react which many did not expect. Now also this BS. No thanks really.

dingdingdang 9y ago

Exactly like React - means the language will be abandoned by wider community. The Facebook peeps are gradually building themselves into corporate self-invented mono-culture.

m00x 9y ago
I'd like to see any concrete numbers on this. I'm seeing React getting stronger and stronger in my area, and patent worries are mostly accepted as crazy hypotheticals.
- georgebarnett 9y ago
  Do you work with any lawyers in your company or peer group? I doubt they view the patent issue as "crazy hypotheticals".
  - abritinthebay 9y ago
    The only lawyers I know with software patent experience consider the fuss absolutely rediculous. It gives you more rights. Full stop, end of story.
- dreamfactored 9y ago
  Wordpress are just starting what could easily be a multi-year rewrite as a result and Drupal has specifically excluded React from evaluation - both on the basis of the patent issues
  - true_religion 9y ago
    True, but PHP development has always been split from the rest of the web-dev community. React has managed to bring together people in C#, Python, Ruby, and Erlang to name a few languages... who all previously used different frameworks, or just jQuery.
  - sneak 9y ago
    Yes, it is clearly in wordpress' best interests to spend all that time and money to preserve their very important right to sue facebook for violating wordpress' software patents in the future. /sarcasm