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your not salaried one of the key features of salaried jobs I sno fixed hours of work and no OT.

doikor 9y ago
I dunno. The direct translation of "salaried" to Finnish is "kuukausipalkallinen" and/or "palkallinen" (which is what it says in my current contract). Which basically means monthly paid or just paid. This is the "default" way of getting paid for your work. We have separate system of hourly paid called "tuntipalkallinen" (again a direct translations tunti==hour and palkallinen==paid) I think this comes down to the employment law here in Finland. Working more then 40 hours a week is basically illegal unless you get compensated for those extra hours. There are some exceptions: * owners (duh...) and their family members (family businesses) * C level employees * work you do at home wholly (if your company has a office the employee visits a couple times a year is enough for you to not be included in this) * churches religious employees (priests etc. not the janitor) * military/border control has their own special way of doing it * some jobs have 120 hours every 3 weeks way of counting this As a side note: Maybe we just don't have the same concept as "salaried" in our language at all (at least I can't come up with one). Closest would be "urakkapalkka" which is basically contract work (as in I will build you this website that you want for X euros. Doesn't matter if it takes 1 hour or 100 hours because we already agreed on the price). No you are not allowed to abuse the contract work way of doing it by having "he will work for our company every week day for as long as we cancel this for as much time as it takes to get shit done" Only legal way that I know of for getting around this is starting your own one man company and being a consultant. But then it is a contract between 2 companies and a whole lot of protections in both directions go away. Also you most likely need a lawyer to get a "good" contract and handle all the taxes, pension, etc by yourself (this is pretty much automated here in Finland for normal employees).
- walshemj 9y ago
  true though as an English language site most would assume Anglo Saxon derived employment law - I know one member of a major UK union executive who would be deeply offended to be thought of as some one who got paid OT
toomanybeersies 9y ago
At least here in NZ, the core difference between salary and wages is that when you have a salaried job, you talk about yearly income, and when you have a wage job, you talk about hourly. The no fixed hours and no overtime thing seems to be an American thing.
- walshemj 9y ago
  Its probably deeper than that as NZ law is derived from UK law most people don't know the details of employment law. Actually UK and it has an impact on your social status setting your own work hours is a class / status indicator

I dunno. The direct translation of "salaried" to Finnish is "kuukausipalkallinen" and/or "palkallinen" (which is what it says in my current contract). Which basically means monthly paid or just paid. This is the "default" way of getting paid for your work. We have separate system of hourly paid called "tuntipalkallinen" (again a direct translations tunti==hour and palkallinen==paid) I think this comes down to the employment law here in Finland. Working more then 40 hours a week is basically illegal unless you get compensated for those extra hours. There are some exceptions: * owners (duh...) and their family members (family businesses) * C level employees * work you do at home wholly (if your company has a office the employee visits a couple times a year is enough for you to not be included in this) * churches religious employees (priests etc. not the janitor) * military/border control has their own special way of doing it * some jobs have 120 hours every 3 weeks way of counting this As a side note: Maybe we just don't have the same concept as "salaried" in our language at all (at least I can't come up with one). Closest would be "urakkapalkka" which is basically contract work (as in I will build you this website that you want for X euros. Doesn't matter if it takes 1 hour or 100 hours because we already agreed on the price). No you are not allowed to abuse the contract work way of doing it by having "he will work for our company every week day for as long as we cancel this for as much time as it takes to get shit done" Only legal way that I know of for getting around this is starting your own one man company and being a consultant. But then it is a contract between 2 companies and a whole lot of protections in both directions go away. Also you most likely need a lawyer to get a "good" contract and handle all the taxes, pension, etc by yourself (this is pretty much automated here in Finland for normal employees).

walshemj 9y ago
true though as an English language site most would assume Anglo Saxon derived employment law - I know one member of a major UK union executive who would be deeply offended to be thought of as some one who got paid OT

toomanybeersies 9y ago

At least here in NZ, the core difference between salary and wages is that when you have a salaried job, you talk about yearly income, and when you have a wage job, you talk about hourly. The no fixed hours and no overtime thing seems to be an American thing.

walshemj 9y ago
Its probably deeper than that as NZ law is derived from UK law most people don't know the details of employment law. Actually UK and it has an impact on your social status setting your own work hours is a class / status indicator