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Is this not illegal? I'm working in London right now, and have been looking at jobs in the US, but the workers rights seem incredibly hostile, and downright cr

Is this not illegal? I'm working in London right now, and have been looking at jobs in the US, but the workers rights seem incredibly hostile, and downright crazy to me...

falcolas 9y ago
Most of the time, you'll be just fine. Even with the "at-will employment" clauses, most people are decent people. That said, it only takes 1% of managers being dicks to ruin the image for everybody, and it's sad to say that it's probably more than 1%.
richardknop 9y ago
This seems normal in US from what I have read (could be wrong as I have never worked in US) so I would stay in London if I were you :)
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  It's a gamble in the US. Most of the time, your direct supervisor and your group manager will both be actual, decent humans, and you will never encounter this madness. But sometimes, one of them, or your division manager, junior VP, senior VP, CTO, or CEO will be an insane demon from the acidic bowels of the abyss, and they will make everyone underneath them miserable. Generally, you either recognize it immediately and decline the offer, or you start looking for other work as soon as you figure it out, because they will eventually fire you or drive you to quit, and you will have no effective recourse against them. We have no union aligned to our interests and no political party wanting to curry favor, so malicious employers can get away with whatever they want, and any penalty or backlash is usually dwarfed by the additional money made by the unethical behavior. The consolation is that if you can get a decent job with sane management, the gross pay before cost of living expenses is a lot higher. You could potentially save up for retirement a lot faster, but you could also get two bad jobs in a row and burn out.
- talmand 9y ago
  It is not the norm. Maybe for certain segments of people within the country that expect to be able to burn out their employees, but for the most part it is not the norm. You only hear the bad stories.

Is this not illegal? I'm working in London right now, and have been looking at jobs in the US, but the workers rights seem incredibly hostile, and downright crazy to me...

falcolas 9y ago

Most of the time, you'll be just fine. Even with the "at-will employment" clauses, most people are decent people. That said, it only takes 1% of managers being dicks to ruin the image for everybody, and it's sad to say that it's probably more than 1%.

richardknop 9y ago

This seems normal in US from what I have read (could be wrong as I have never worked in US) so I would stay in London if I were you :)

logfromblammo 9y ago
It's a gamble in the US. Most of the time, your direct supervisor and your group manager will both be actual, decent humans, and you will never encounter this madness. But sometimes, one of them, or your division manager, junior VP, senior VP, CTO, or CEO will be an insane demon from the acidic bowels of the abyss, and they will make everyone underneath them miserable. Generally, you either recognize it immediately and decline the offer, or you start looking for other work as soon as you figure it out, because they will eventually fire you or drive you to quit, and you will have no effective recourse against them. We have no union aligned to our interests and no political party wanting to curry favor, so malicious employers can get away with whatever they want, and any penalty or backlash is usually dwarfed by the additional money made by the unethical behavior. The consolation is that if you can get a decent job with sane management, the gross pay before cost of living expenses is a lot higher. You could potentially save up for retirement a lot faster, but you could also get two bad jobs in a row and burn out.
talmand 9y ago
It is not the norm. Maybe for certain segments of people within the country that expect to be able to burn out their employees, but for the most part it is not the norm. You only hear the bad stories.