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Their bottom up innovation will come to a screeching halt. They will export more young utility focused entrepreneurs fed up and not wanting in to that domineeri

Their bottom up innovation will come to a screeching halt. They will export more young utility focused entrepreneurs fed up and not wanting in to that domineering state whacking their friends. We had a different colonial trajectory, but our own McCarthy era had disastrous cascading outcomes. "Rights to be forgotten" is another peculiar notion popular in some TV propaganda driven Western countries loving makeovers. Keep on rocking in the free world while it lasts.

smegel 9y ago
Don't underestimate the nationalism of young Chinese. And I very much doubt the CP is going to go after administrators who on-the-whole moderate with a pro-Beijing slant because they took 5 minutes too many to delete a comment. Making assumptions that all young people hate the CP and would betray their country to the west at first opportunity sounds like one of those classic mistakes the West makes when it projects it's own sensibilities onto the world.
- prklmn 9y ago
  Most outsiders probably do not realize the impact of 24/7 propaganda in every media channel there is. That's what OP is overlooking, and that's ultimately what this action is ultimately about...
  - toronson 9y ago
    Seriously, most outsiders can't even see the propaganda in their own media. How do you expect them to see it in other countries? Chinese propaganda at the moment is really amateurish. Just wait until they learn from the best [1]. 1. Noam Chomsky - Manufacturing Consent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU
  - sametmax 9y ago
    Just like we underestimate our propaganda. When you are inside the soap bubble, it's very hard to realize how much our brain have been washed.
sushcount 9y ago
> Their bottom up innovation will come to a screeching halt China didn't have much innovation coming out to start with. China mainly did the steal/force transfer/borrow technology thing.
- toronson 9y ago
  And that's what just about all countries did when they industrialized.
alphaalpha101 9y ago
>"Rights to be forgotten" is another peculiar notion popular in some TV propaganda driven Western countries loving makeovers. Keep on rocking in the free world while it lasts. Right to be forgotten isn't peculiar and neither is it at all related to "makeover" TV programmes or freedom. Right to be forgotten is about have a right to your own information. Collecting information doesn't give you a right to it. Something being publicly available doesn't make it actually public.
nickrio 9y ago
Ha! That's wrong. You see, even if "young utility focused entrepreneurs" don't like what CCP says, they can pretend they likes it and help spread it. It's called Lying, but people do it all the time. After that, when those entrepreneurs made enough money, they can live outside China and become a citizen of a country they like. And lying is enough for CCP (or any government I assume) as long as that lie can keep most people loyal to them. Also, "Young" is just a nature status, it's mean nothing about people's ideology. Lot's of young people joined Nazi in the old days, don't forget that.

smegel 9y ago

Don't underestimate the nationalism of young Chinese. And I very much doubt the CP is going to go after administrators who on-the-whole moderate with a pro-Beijing slant because they took 5 minutes too many to delete a comment. Making assumptions that all young people hate the CP and would betray their country to the west at first opportunity sounds like one of those classic mistakes the West makes when it projects it's own sensibilities onto the world.

prklmn 9y ago
Most outsiders probably do not realize the impact of 24/7 propaganda in every media channel there is. That's what OP is overlooking, and that's ultimately what this action is ultimately about...
- toronson 9y ago
  Seriously, most outsiders can't even see the propaganda in their own media. How do you expect them to see it in other countries? Chinese propaganda at the moment is really amateurish. Just wait until they learn from the best [1]. 1. Noam Chomsky - Manufacturing Consent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU
- sametmax 9y ago
  Just like we underestimate our propaganda. When you are inside the soap bubble, it's very hard to realize how much our brain have been washed.

sushcount 9y ago

> Their bottom up innovation will come to a screeching halt China didn't have much innovation coming out to start with. China mainly did the steal/force transfer/borrow technology thing.

toronson 9y ago
And that's what just about all countries did when they industrialized.

alphaalpha101 9y ago

>"Rights to be forgotten" is another peculiar notion popular in some TV propaganda driven Western countries loving makeovers. Keep on rocking in the free world while it lasts. Right to be forgotten isn't peculiar and neither is it at all related to "makeover" TV programmes or freedom. Right to be forgotten is about have a right to your own information. Collecting information doesn't give you a right to it. Something being publicly available doesn't make it actually public.

nickrio 9y ago

Ha! That's wrong. You see, even if "young utility focused entrepreneurs" don't like what CCP says, they can pretend they likes it and help spread it. It's called Lying, but people do it all the time. After that, when those entrepreneurs made enough money, they can live outside China and become a citizen of a country they like. And lying is enough for CCP (or any government I assume) as long as that lie can keep most people loyal to them. Also, "Young" is just a nature status, it's mean nothing about people's ideology. Lot's of young people joined Nazi in the old days, don't forget that.