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Gigantic useless trackpad. Looks like no status leds. Where oh where is the x60 of today? Is there some place where I can just pay them the profit margin for

by nullc 9y ago

Gigantic useless trackpad. Looks like no status leds. Where oh where is the x60 of today? Is there some place where I can just pay them the profit margin for this laptop and have the count added to their sales figures? This laptop is an improvement, but it looks like it still has a long way to go. :(

devwastaken 9y ago
Trackpad isn't useless, but it not having physical left and right buttons sure is. The worst design decision of laptops is having it one 'pad' that you have to guess where the left and right is.
- rocqua 9y ago
  There are physical buttons above the trackpad. Granted, they are meant for the trackpoint, but they are still there.
  - devwastaken 9y ago
    Yes, but your palm is resting on the touchpad now, moving it around.
    - coaxial 9y ago
      You can disable the trackpad entirely, either via your OS or better yet in the BIOS.
robotmay 9y ago
Looks the same as what I have on my X250. I hit the corners of it with my palms all the time :\ Other than that and the crap display panel used in it, it has been a great little laptop so far.
- jpalomaki 9y ago
  You can disable trackpad in bios.
  - robotmay 9y ago
    I've never gotten the hang of the ThinkPad nipple unfortunately, so disabling the trackpad would make me quite a bit slower. It's actually a nice trackpad, just perhaps a bit too large for the device.
lotus79 9y ago
There is a modern x60, specifically a x61 equipped with modern internals, called the x62: https://www.notebookcheck.net/X62-Laptop-Review.211598.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/X62-Laptop-Review.211598.0.htm... However, it is quite rare. There are some people in contact with the sellers (51nb) at r/thinkpad if you are interested.
- pyvpx 9y ago
  Rare? I have three! Two i5s and an i7 model.
ggreer 9y ago
> Where oh where is the x60 of today? It's an ordeal, but it's possible to have one. This[1] is my primary computer. It's an X61 chassis with a Core i7-5600U, 32GB of RAM, and 1TB SSD. The screen is a 12" 1400x1050 IPS LCD (matte, not glossy). It's my favorite laptop. Putting it together took months. There's a group of enthusiasts in China called 51nb that make modern internals for old ThinkPad chassis[2]. I ordered a barebones chassis from them in March and received it in June. After that I replaced the LCD's ancient CCFL backlight with an LED conversion kit[3], improving battery life and brightness. If you want to know more, I wrote a blog post detailing the whole experience[4]. 1. https://geoff.greer.fm/photos/x62/DSC_2304.JPG https://geoff.greer.fm/photos/x62/DSC_2304.JPG 2. https://www.51nb.com/benzhanshiye/2017-06-08/83668.html https://www.51nb.com/benzhanshiye/2017-06-08/83668.html 3. https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-backlight.shtml https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-backlight.sht... 4. https://geoff.greer.fm/2017/07/16/thinkpad-x62/ https://geoff.greer.fm/2017/07/16/thinkpad-x62/
- bfuller 9y ago
  That is gorgeous, but I don't think I have the dedication to go through all that.
- eltoozero 9y ago
  Wow, this is excellent. I have a thing for the x201 and there is apparently a mobo upgrade on the bench for that thing too.
- gsich 9y ago
  Sadly no working docking port.
- vaibhavsagar 9y ago
  This is incredible, thanks for sharing this!
- craftyguy 9y ago
  Wow this is awesome and tempting... Do you have any write-ups on your bikepacking trip?
- 9y ago
amiga-workbench 9y ago
I know exactly how you feel, I'm not upgrading past the X201 series, its the last model I can completely remove the trackpad on, and its the last model without a screen aspect ratio only optimised for watching video. http://mos6581.com/pictures/thinkpad/x201t-bios.jpg http://mos6581.com/pictures/thinkpad/x201t-bios.jpg
- marian0_ 9y ago
  It's very difficult to find good laptops with 4:3 or even 16:10 screens these days. Heck, it's very difficult to find good monitors with aspect ratios other than 16:9!
  - amiga-workbench 9y ago
    I got my hopes up with the small splurge of 3:2 devices we got the other year, but that seems to have sputtered out.
  - PeachPlum 9y ago
    How about a laptop with 9:16 instead! I lusted over A4 displays in the 90s
- thinbeige 9y ago
  I can understand your preference for the X201 (r/thinkpad is full of folks like you and my first Thinkpad was a X20 or so) but the screen resolution would kill me. It's 2017 and text, bash, vim or I mean just anything on a 120dpi or less screen is just a terrible idea.
  - amiga-workbench 9y ago
    At a normal viewing distance I cannot see individual pixels, its only a 12" panel and at 1280x800 is quite serviceable (I wouldn't mind a 1440x900 panel though) It might just be my poor eyesight, but the resolution has never bothered me.
    - 9y ago
trengrj 9y ago
The gpdpocket is pretty close if you are looking for a trackpad less design (though too small for daily use). If you can afford 100,000k for a mould they could be you best bet for doing something custom.

by nullc 9y ago

devwastaken 9y ago

Trackpad isn't useless, but it not having physical left and right buttons sure is. The worst design decision of laptops is having it one 'pad' that you have to guess where the left and right is.

rocqua 9y ago
There are physical buttons above the trackpad. Granted, they are meant for the trackpoint, but they are still there.
- devwastaken 9y ago
  Yes, but your palm is resting on the touchpad now, moving it around.
  - coaxial 9y ago
    You can disable the trackpad entirely, either via your OS or better yet in the BIOS.

robotmay 9y ago

Looks the same as what I have on my X250. I hit the corners of it with my palms all the time :\ Other than that and the crap display panel used in it, it has been a great little laptop so far.

jpalomaki 9y ago
You can disable trackpad in bios.
- robotmay 9y ago
  I've never gotten the hang of the ThinkPad nipple unfortunately, so disabling the trackpad would make me quite a bit slower. It's actually a nice trackpad, just perhaps a bit too large for the device.

lotus79 9y ago

There is a modern x60, specifically a x61 equipped with modern internals, called the x62: https://www.notebookcheck.net/X62-Laptop-Review.211598.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/X62-Laptop-Review.211598.0.htm... However, it is quite rare. There are some people in contact with the sellers (51nb) at r/thinkpad if you are interested.

pyvpx 9y ago
Rare? I have three! Two i5s and an i7 model.

ggreer 9y ago

> Where oh where is the x60 of today? It's an ordeal, but it's possible to have one. This[1] is my primary computer. It's an X61 chassis with a Core i7-5600U, 32GB of RAM, and 1TB SSD. The screen is a 12" 1400x1050 IPS LCD (matte, not glossy). It's my favorite laptop. Putting it together took months. There's a group of enthusiasts in China called 51nb that make modern internals for old ThinkPad chassis[2]. I ordered a barebones chassis from them in March and received it in June. After that I replaced the LCD's ancient CCFL backlight with an LED conversion kit[3], improving battery life and brightness. If you want to know more, I wrote a blog post detailing the whole experience[4]. 1. https://geoff.greer.fm/photos/x62/DSC_2304.JPG https://geoff.greer.fm/photos/x62/DSC_2304.JPG 2. https://www.51nb.com/benzhanshiye/2017-06-08/83668.html https://www.51nb.com/benzhanshiye/2017-06-08/83668.html 3. https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-backlight.shtml https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-backlight.sht... 4. https://geoff.greer.fm/2017/07/16/thinkpad-x62/ https://geoff.greer.fm/2017/07/16/thinkpad-x62/

bfuller 9y ago
That is gorgeous, but I don't think I have the dedication to go through all that.
eltoozero 9y ago
Wow, this is excellent. I have a thing for the x201 and there is apparently a mobo upgrade on the bench for that thing too.
gsich 9y ago
Sadly no working docking port.
vaibhavsagar 9y ago
This is incredible, thanks for sharing this!
craftyguy 9y ago
Wow this is awesome and tempting... Do you have any write-ups on your bikepacking trip?
9y ago

amiga-workbench 9y ago

I know exactly how you feel, I'm not upgrading past the X201 series, its the last model I can completely remove the trackpad on, and its the last model without a screen aspect ratio only optimised for watching video. http://mos6581.com/pictures/thinkpad/x201t-bios.jpg http://mos6581.com/pictures/thinkpad/x201t-bios.jpg

marian0_ 9y ago
It's very difficult to find good laptops with 4:3 or even 16:10 screens these days. Heck, it's very difficult to find good monitors with aspect ratios other than 16:9!
- amiga-workbench 9y ago
  I got my hopes up with the small splurge of 3:2 devices we got the other year, but that seems to have sputtered out.
- PeachPlum 9y ago
  How about a laptop with 9:16 instead! I lusted over A4 displays in the 90s
thinbeige 9y ago
I can understand your preference for the X201 (r/thinkpad is full of folks like you and my first Thinkpad was a X20 or so) but the screen resolution would kill me. It's 2017 and text, bash, vim or I mean just anything on a 120dpi or less screen is just a terrible idea.
- amiga-workbench 9y ago
  At a normal viewing distance I cannot see individual pixels, its only a 12" panel and at 1280x800 is quite serviceable (I wouldn't mind a 1440x900 panel though) It might just be my poor eyesight, but the resolution has never bothered me.
  - 9y ago

trengrj 9y ago

The gpdpocket is pretty close if you are looking for a trackpad less design (though too small for daily use). If you can afford 100,000k for a mould they could be you best bet for doing something custom.