> Then we have this other cohort of people with chronic issues who exhausted, or are unsatisfied with, the treatments offered by western medicine. Except... I'

> Then we have this other cohort of people with chronic issues who exhausted, or are unsatisfied with, the treatments offered by western medicine. Except... I'm in that cohort. I've been through the gauntlet too - years and years and thousands of dollars of both real medicine and what I now accept to be fake, that I reached for in desperation. So, I see your anecdata, and raise mine. If only we had some rigorous methodology for determining which conclusion is the correct one, as far as we can tell from the current evidence... Moveover - trying to present evidence for a field that >specifically< shies away from evidence-based conclusions is a rather silly, IMNSHO. It worked for Mao because he wasn't trying to cure anyone: he was explicitly trying to fool people. Western medicine may be incomplete, ineffective and often wrong, but it's not founded in willful bullshit.