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Serious question - have you ever done any weightlifting, specifically whole body functional movements like deadlifts, to address your back pain? http://spartas

by maxcan 9y ago

Serious question - have you ever done any weightlifting, specifically whole body functional movements like deadlifts, to address your back pain? http://spartascience.com/blog-post/strength/deadlifts-can-cure-back-pain-not-cause-it/ http://spartascience.com/blog-post/strength/deadlifts-can-cu... Note: if you haven't, even though I strongly and emphatically recommend it, its almost certainly best to start with a coach who can teach proper movement mechanics.

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DanBC 9y ago
Exercise (carefully monitored by health care professionals) will work for most people. It doesn't work for all people. I get the impression that katastic has made genuine effort to engage in a wide range of treatment, and is still not getting much if any pain relief. People find it weird that we still don't have good treatment options for some types of pain, but that's the reality. Some people just have to live their lives in near constant pain. Here's the Faculty of Pain Management with some information about pain: https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-aware/condition-patient-context/about-pain https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-awar... And about the challenges of treating long term pain: https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-aware/condition-patient-context/stepped-approach-to-pain-prescribing https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-awar...
neogodless 9y ago
Oh man, I want to read this article. Sadly, it'll have to wait. Be I'm on my phone, where I don't know how to turn off "light gray text on white background" style! More on topic, I'm an anecdote of someone who squats and deadlifts to prevent pain in my back and hips. Stopping for a couple weeks usually allows the pain to return.
- maxcan 9y ago
  To be honest, its not a great article. I'll try to find a better one.
- maxcan 9y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25559899 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25559899 > Recent studies have indicated that the deadlift exercise may be effective in decreasing pain intensity and increasing activity for most, but not all, patients with a dominating pattern of mechanical low back pain. This study aimed to evaluate which individual factors measured at baseline could predict activity, disability, and pain intensity in patients with mechanical low back pain after an 8-week training period involving the deadlift as a rehabilitative exercise. Thirty-five participants performed deadlift training under the supervision of a physical therapist with powerlifting experience. Measures of pain-related fear of movement, hip and trunk muscle endurance, and lumbopelvic movement control were collected at baseline. Measures of activity, disability, and pain intensity were collected at baseline and at follow-up. Linear regression analyses were used to create models to predict activity, disability, and pain intensity at follow-up. Results showed that participants with less disability, less pain intensity, and higher performance on the Biering-Sørensen test, which tests the endurance of hip and back extensor muscles, at baseline benefit from deadlift training. The Biering-Sørensen test was the most robust predictor because it was included in all predictive models. Pain intensity was the next best predictor as it was included in 2 predictive models. Thus, for strength and conditioning professionals who use the deadlift as a rehabilitative exercise for individuals with mechanical low back pain, it is important to ensure that clients have sufficient back extensor strength and endurance and a sufficiently low pain intensity level to benefit from training involving the deadlift exercise.
- dredmorbius 9y ago
  https://outline.com/http://spartascience.com/blog-post/strength/deadlifts-can-cure-back-pain-not-cause-it/ https://outline.com/http://spartascience.com/blog-post/stren...

by maxcan 9y ago

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DanBC 9y ago

Exercise (carefully monitored by health care professionals) will work for most people. It doesn't work for all people. I get the impression that katastic has made genuine effort to engage in a wide range of treatment, and is still not getting much if any pain relief. People find it weird that we still don't have good treatment options for some types of pain, but that's the reality. Some people just have to live their lives in near constant pain. Here's the Faculty of Pain Management with some information about pain: https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-aware/condition-patient-context/about-pain https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-awar... And about the challenges of treating long term pain: https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-aware/condition-patient-context/stepped-approach-to-pain-prescribing https://www.rcoa.ac.uk/faculty-of-pain-medicine/opioids-awar...

neogodless 9y ago

Oh man, I want to read this article. Sadly, it'll have to wait. Be I'm on my phone, where I don't know how to turn off "light gray text on white background" style! More on topic, I'm an anecdote of someone who squats and deadlifts to prevent pain in my back and hips. Stopping for a couple weeks usually allows the pain to return.

maxcan 9y ago
To be honest, its not a great article. I'll try to find a better one.
maxcan 9y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25559899 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25559899 > Recent studies have indicated that the deadlift exercise may be effective in decreasing pain intensity and increasing activity for most, but not all, patients with a dominating pattern of mechanical low back pain. This study aimed to evaluate which individual factors measured at baseline could predict activity, disability, and pain intensity in patients with mechanical low back pain after an 8-week training period involving the deadlift as a rehabilitative exercise. Thirty-five participants performed deadlift training under the supervision of a physical therapist with powerlifting experience. Measures of pain-related fear of movement, hip and trunk muscle endurance, and lumbopelvic movement control were collected at baseline. Measures of activity, disability, and pain intensity were collected at baseline and at follow-up. Linear regression analyses were used to create models to predict activity, disability, and pain intensity at follow-up. Results showed that participants with less disability, less pain intensity, and higher performance on the Biering-Sørensen test, which tests the endurance of hip and back extensor muscles, at baseline benefit from deadlift training. The Biering-Sørensen test was the most robust predictor because it was included in all predictive models. Pain intensity was the next best predictor as it was included in 2 predictive models. Thus, for strength and conditioning professionals who use the deadlift as a rehabilitative exercise for individuals with mechanical low back pain, it is important to ensure that clients have sufficient back extensor strength and endurance and a sufficiently low pain intensity level to benefit from training involving the deadlift exercise.
dredmorbius 9y ago
https://outline.com/http://spartascience.com/blog-post/strength/deadlifts-can-cure-back-pain-not-cause-it/ https://outline.com/http://spartascience.com/blog-post/stren...