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That's an interesting thought process. How, though, does paying $0 up-front for something that costs $0 put you on the hook to later be charged any price the ve

That's an interesting thought process. How, though, does paying $0 up-front for something that costs $0 put you on the hook to later be charged any price the vendor wishes? And what makes this different from a $5 purchase? If I buy a hot dog from a street vendor, I certainly wouldn't expect to see another $10 charge from him 6 months later just because he felt like he should have charged more at the time.

ponow 9y ago
Because in life, all prices are subject to change. Maybe you wouldn't expect the hot dog to double in price to $10, and conversely the vendor wouldn't expect you to become bored with hot dogs and now are only willing to pay half at $2.50. The only right each party has here is to say no.
- rmrfrmrf 9y ago
  You misunderstand. In the analogy, I never bought a second hot dog. Likewise, all "commercial" users of Caddy had the EULA switched out from underneath them to force them into non-compliance.
  - detaro 9y ago
    Which shows how bad the analogy is. You weren't "forced into non-compliance", you could keep your hot dog (=caddy executable you downloaded before) just fine. The difference between hot dogs and software is that hot dogs don't get (and don't require) updates after the fact, while for software they are important. EDIT: also, you don't accidentally install new hot dogs through dockerfiles or something - it's quite possible people ran into non-compliance that way, given there was no prior warning.
    - rmrfrmrf 9y ago
      Again, this stresses the need for clear communication. > Beginning today, all official Caddy binaries come with an End User License Agreement (EULA) that designates them either for Personal (non-commercial) or Commercial use. They probably could have clarified this by saying "Beginning with version 0.10.9" instead of "all binaries".

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That's an interesting thought process. How, though, does paying $0 up-front for something that costs $0 put you on the hook to later be charged any price the ve

by rmrfrmrf 9y ago

ponow 9y ago
Because in life, all prices are subject to change. Maybe you wouldn't expect the hot dog to double in price to $10, and conversely the vendor wouldn't expect you to become bored with hot dogs and now are only willing to pay half at $2.50. The only right each party has here is to say no.
- rmrfrmrf 9y ago
  You misunderstand. In the analogy, I never bought a second hot dog. Likewise, all "commercial" users of Caddy had the EULA switched out from underneath them to force them into non-compliance.
  - detaro 9y ago
    Which shows how bad the analogy is. You weren't "forced into non-compliance", you could keep your hot dog (=caddy executable you downloaded before) just fine. The difference between hot dogs and software is that hot dogs don't get (and don't require) updates after the fact, while for software they are important. EDIT: also, you don't accidentally install new hot dogs through dockerfiles or something - it's quite possible people ran into non-compliance that way, given there was no prior warning.
    - rmrfrmrf 9y ago
      Again, this stresses the need for clear communication. > Beginning today, all official Caddy binaries come with an End User License Agreement (EULA) that designates them either for Personal (non-commercial) or Commercial use. They probably could have clarified this by saying "Beginning with version 0.10.9" instead of "all binaries".