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And to further take this off topic I would like to mention that every church I have been to (mostly Methodist) never even talk about abortion. It just never co

by gscott 9y ago

And to further take this off topic I would like to mention that every church I have been to (mostly Methodist) never even talk about abortion. It just never comes up. Abortion right to life seems to be a favorite topic of some politicians and liberal commentators trying to ostracize Christians.

tasty_freeze 9y ago
This is not a case of Christian persecution. Good for you, you are part of a liberal Christian denomination. But there are more than 100M Christians who strongly object to abortion on religious grounds. In most states in the US, there has been a terrible erosion in the ability to get an abortion, and this is due to political leveraging of the issue with Christian support. http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortio... 70% of evangelicals are opposed, while 44% of Catholics are. From that you might conclude that since the majority of Catholics are not opposed to abortion that proves your case. That would be wrong. The church and those who oppose it are far more vocal and influential than those who support it. Really, this topic is in the news all the time. I don't know how the religious connection has escaped you.
- gscott 9y ago
  It is really interesting that it has escaped me since I have been to a number of religious retreats, events, and have been a regular church goer for about 20 years now. Maybe it is because I live in California.
jessaustin 9y ago
The "mainline" protestants made a bit of a Faustian bargain on abortion. Like most religionists, their doctrine is determined primarily by what will generate the fullest collection plate. In attempting not to alienate women who've had abortions, they instead alienated judgmental old people, which latter group has got to be any religion's primary customer. Nowadays they're much quieter with their "abortion is OK" dogma.

by gscott 9y ago

tasty_freeze 9y ago

This is not a case of Christian persecution. Good for you, you are part of a liberal Christian denomination. But there are more than 100M Christians who strongly object to abortion on religious grounds. In most states in the US, there has been a terrible erosion in the ability to get an abortion, and this is due to political leveraging of the issue with Christian support. http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/ http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortio... 70% of evangelicals are opposed, while 44% of Catholics are. From that you might conclude that since the majority of Catholics are not opposed to abortion that proves your case. That would be wrong. The church and those who oppose it are far more vocal and influential than those who support it. Really, this topic is in the news all the time. I don't know how the religious connection has escaped you.

gscott 9y ago
It is really interesting that it has escaped me since I have been to a number of religious retreats, events, and have been a regular church goer for about 20 years now. Maybe it is because I live in California.

jessaustin 9y ago

The "mainline" protestants made a bit of a Faustian bargain on abortion. Like most religionists, their doctrine is determined primarily by what will generate the fullest collection plate. In attempting not to alienate women who've had abortions, they instead alienated judgmental old people, which latter group has got to be any religion's primary customer. Nowadays they're much quieter with their "abortion is OK" dogma.