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> If we want to remain logically consistent, shouldn't we lock up the Trump supporters with the baby killers? No, we should let them participate in society. Po
by Swizec 9y ago
> If we want to remain logically consistent, shouldn't we lock up the Trump supporters with the baby killers?
No, we should let them participate in society. Political discrimination is the same as religious discrimination: bad.
What is the difference between these two statements?
1) Muslims shouldn’t be allowed to run social apps
2) Republicans shouldn’t be allowed to run social apps
Same shit different religion.
- joshuamorton 9y agoWho you pray to doesn't affect me. Who you vote for does.
- jdoliner 9y agoWhat if who you pray to affects who you vote for?
- joshuamorton 9y agoI doubt that's the case for anyone, much more likely that it's who you pray with.
- jdoliner 9y agoWell who you pray to affects who pray with, which in turn affects who you vote for. Doesn't it?
- joshuamorton 9y agoThey're correlated perhaps, but there is a huge variance in political views, at least among the major religions. This is especially true with economic policy, which really has little to do with religious belief, but even with a lot of social policy its true. That is, while there probably aren't many devout Catholics who support late stage abortion, the opinions on things like LGBT rights, the environment, refugee and immigration policy, homelessness, access to education, and more will vary wildly between devout Catholics. That second part is also true for devout Protestants and Jews and Muslims and Buddhists. Sure the means might not sit in exactly the same places, but that's very different than the political spectrum in the US, which is essentially bimodal.
- wallace_f 9y agoSo what's the moral argument we've come to here? Lock people up who negatively affect you? Is that just?
- joshuamorton 9y agoI don't really see how you could draw that conclusion. No. I'm saying this it makes more sense to shun people based on actions that negatively impact you, than to do so for views that are totally irrelevant.
- Swizec 9y agoOrganized religion is primarily a form of politics though. Before we had the left and the right, we had various religiouns jostling for political supremacy. The concept of separation of church and state is fairly modern and not fully implemented yet. Case in point: US imagery invokes a lot of God stuff and Germans still pay church taxes. Most religions in most of the modern world are also tax exempt organizations etc.