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What you're saying is a bit different than the premise I argued against from parent, effectively (an oversimplification, but...): "Automobiles are bad" I come

What you're saying is a bit different than the premise I argued against from parent, effectively (an oversimplification, but...): "Automobiles are bad" I come from a bias being from Silicon Valley, but when I moved to the south, it is IMPOSSIBLE to work without a car. I mean, as a developer, I can work from home, but our corporate overlords would like me in an office. Are you aware that there are cities which have no feasible public transportation? To get rid of "personal transport cars", you would also require a massive paradigm shift. Not just in city planning, or introduction of public transport, but with how people live as well. A massive "unrooting" of our current structures would need to take place, with a rapid replacement of more sustainable transit options. I actually find it valuable, in the longterm, but no one will agree with me.

brndnmtthws 9y ago
Yep, we need progress and good urban planning. Some places (like the Netherlands) have embraced cycling, for example, because of its many benefits. There's lots of good info about this particular case study over at Wikipedia[1], and also check out the recent NYT article[2]. Here's a good quote: > More important for the nation’s bottom line, the country’s preference for the bicycle could save its economy $23 billion each year, according to a recent study done at Utrecht University and published in the American Journal of Public Health. The study suggested that the Netherlands’ vigorous cycling habits prevented 6,500 premature deaths each year. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_the_Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_the_Netherlands [2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/world/europe/bicycling-utrecht-dutch-love-bikes-worlds-largest-bike-parking-garages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/world/europe/bicycling-ut...
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brndnmtthws 9y ago

Yep, we need progress and good urban planning. Some places (like the Netherlands) have embraced cycling, for example, because of its many benefits. There's lots of good info about this particular case study over at Wikipedia[1], and also check out the recent NYT article[2]. Here's a good quote: > More important for the nation’s bottom line, the country’s preference for the bicycle could save its economy $23 billion each year, according to a recent study done at Utrecht University and published in the American Journal of Public Health. The study suggested that the Netherlands’ vigorous cycling habits prevented 6,500 premature deaths each year. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_the_Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_the_Netherlands [2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/world/europe/bicycling-utrecht-dutch-love-bikes-worlds-largest-bike-parking-garages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/06/world/europe/bicycling-ut...

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