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Note: It's not a new kernel. This was previously known as Magenta, and it's now been renamed [1] to Zircon. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_ite

Note: It's not a new kernel. This was previously known as Magenta, and it's now been renamed [1] to Zircon. [1] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fuchsia-OS-Magenta-Zircon https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fuchsia-...

snvzz 9y ago
That's helpful. I was trying to figure out whatever happened to Magenta. So it's just a rename.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  That is most likely because Magenta now is a Tensorflow project, talk about communication inside the same company! https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ https://magenta.tensorflow.org/
  - kbumsik 9y ago
    That Tensorflow Magenta looks like a totally unrelated and separated project from the Magenta OS though.
    - pjmlp 9y ago
      Of course it is, but imagine referring to Google's Magenta project without context.
- djsumdog 9y ago
  Now if only we knew what they hell they are for.
  - lobster_johnson 9y ago
    From here [1]: "Zircon targets modern phones and modern personal computers with fast processors, non-trivial amounts of ram with arbitrary peripherals doing open ended computation." It's likely that this is what Google wants to replace Linux with on Android phones. The kernel/OS both seem to be designed to scale down to very small devices and all the way up to full GUI desktops. [1] https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/zircon/+/master/docs/zx_and_lk.md https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/zircon/+/master/docs/zx_and...
snuxoll 9y ago
The name immediately makes me think of Mr. Zurkon from the Ratchet & Clank franchise. Wonder if it's mere coincidence or if somebody is a fan.
- lobster_johnson 9y ago
  I suspect it's named after Zirconium [1], similar to how Chromium/Chrome are also named after a metal. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zirconium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zirconium
  - tyingq 9y ago
    Other pieces of the system are called Garnet and Topaz, so I assume Zircon is more about the gemstone.
    - lobster_johnson 9y ago
      Oh yeah, zircon is also a mineral (zirconium silicate): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zircon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zircon
    - jamespo 9y ago
      Surely Google should realise that Topaz and Garnet clash with font names on AmigaOS?
    - posterboy 9y ago
      I'd guess though it has to do with circles as in ring-0 from OS theory and maybe recycled (pun not intended) from google plus circles. With the other ones creativity might just have left them. Garnet is the composer for ui. What is topaz?
romanovcode 9y ago
I'm pretty sure when the OS itself will get released it will also be renamed. I mean Fuchsia name is super unintuitive to pronounce.
- mastax 9y ago
  Wouldn't be surprised if they just call it "Android 10.0" or something. If they keep Java/NDK compatibility, the rest doesn't matter to most people.
- Zigurd 9y ago
  Simple to pronounce. Spelling is hard.
  - romanovcode 9y ago
    I know multiple languages and to be honest I still don't know how to pronounce it :)
    - KGIII 9y ago
      Few-shah.
      - posterboy 9y ago
        I suppose you are getting close to "future". I'd naturally say "fucks-ya", informed by the German, but /fjuːʃə/ seems to be informed by the French, although Leonhart Fuchs was a German, whom the plant was named after. Fuchs means fox, neither fudge nor few, by the way.
        KGIII 9y ago
        Don't blame me, I don't make the rules. That's at least how we Americans pronounce it. Then again, we mispronounce quite a few things, so it may have a more localized pronunciation in its native language regions. I can't speak for those, as I wouldn't know.

snvzz 9y ago

That's helpful. I was trying to figure out whatever happened to Magenta. So it's just a rename.

pjmlp 9y ago
That is most likely because Magenta now is a Tensorflow project, talk about communication inside the same company! https://magenta.tensorflow.org/ https://magenta.tensorflow.org/
- kbumsik 9y ago
  That Tensorflow Magenta looks like a totally unrelated and separated project from the Magenta OS though.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    Of course it is, but imagine referring to Google's Magenta project without context.
djsumdog 9y ago
Now if only we knew what they hell they are for.
- lobster_johnson 9y ago
  From here [1]: "Zircon targets modern phones and modern personal computers with fast processors, non-trivial amounts of ram with arbitrary peripherals doing open ended computation." It's likely that this is what Google wants to replace Linux with on Android phones. The kernel/OS both seem to be designed to scale down to very small devices and all the way up to full GUI desktops. [1] https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/zircon/+/master/docs/zx_and_lk.md https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/zircon/+/master/docs/zx_and...

snuxoll 9y ago

The name immediately makes me think of Mr. Zurkon from the Ratchet & Clank franchise. Wonder if it's mere coincidence or if somebody is a fan.

lobster_johnson 9y ago
I suspect it's named after Zirconium [1], similar to how Chromium/Chrome are also named after a metal. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zirconium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zirconium
- tyingq 9y ago
  Other pieces of the system are called Garnet and Topaz, so I assume Zircon is more about the gemstone.
  - lobster_johnson 9y ago
    Oh yeah, zircon is also a mineral (zirconium silicate): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zircon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zircon
  - jamespo 9y ago
    Surely Google should realise that Topaz and Garnet clash with font names on AmigaOS?
  - posterboy 9y ago
    I'd guess though it has to do with circles as in ring-0 from OS theory and maybe recycled (pun not intended) from google plus circles. With the other ones creativity might just have left them. Garnet is the composer for ui. What is topaz?

romanovcode 9y ago

I'm pretty sure when the OS itself will get released it will also be renamed. I mean Fuchsia name is super unintuitive to pronounce.

mastax 9y ago
Wouldn't be surprised if they just call it "Android 10.0" or something. If they keep Java/NDK compatibility, the rest doesn't matter to most people.
Zigurd 9y ago
Simple to pronounce. Spelling is hard.
- romanovcode 9y ago
  I know multiple languages and to be honest I still don't know how to pronounce it :)
  - KGIII 9y ago
    Few-shah.
    - posterboy 9y ago
      I suppose you are getting close to "future". I'd naturally say "fucks-ya", informed by the German, but /fjuːʃə/ seems to be informed by the French, although Leonhart Fuchs was a German, whom the plant was named after. Fuchs means fox, neither fudge nor few, by the way.
      - KGIII 9y ago
        Don't blame me, I don't make the rules. That's at least how we Americans pronounce it. Then again, we mispronounce quite a few things, so it may have a more localized pronunciation in its native language regions. I can't speak for those, as I wouldn't know.