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> Russians were involved in a lot of hacking during the election, and a lot that has surfaced since, like intrusion into power plants, etc. Any large enough co
by rdtsc 9y ago
> Russians were involved in a lot of hacking during the election, and a lot that has surfaced since, like intrusion into power plants, etc.
Any large enough country is involved in such activities. Iranians, Chinese, Israelis and North Koreans, Romanians, US false flags, private interests are probably able to hire people to work for them.
> 100% super double sure that we landed on the moon
Clearly you have just as good evidence that Russians hacked the election and overturned the result that is comparable to moon landing. A video perhaps, an audio recording, a chat log that can be verified, a confession from a credible source or a defector?
I hoping the vote recount would show some proof in Wisconsin but it turned out it gave Trump 3 more votes.
Yeah, serious allegation require more serious evidence to be believed. Otherwise it looks like a conspiracy theory.
And just like a conspiracy theory, if more people repeat it doesn't make it more true. If there are 10k contrails or lizard people making the same argument, it doesn't make the argument more true.
> How do we know this? Because all investigations from the three letter agencies agree on it.
The 17 intelligence agencies, including the Coast Guard Intelligence has irrefutable proof Russia overturned our election results?
- wallace_f 9y agoThe reason that the word of all 3 letter agencies is a gold standard for proof (just as good as the proof we have that we landed on the moon) is because they never lied to us before, or tried to do anything shady. /s Just kidding. What should I cite? Everything awful the FBI did to MLK? That the NSA lied to us about domestic spying? The fact that Iraq was actually trying to disarm while the Bush admin and 3 letter agencies engaged in a cover up so as to not disrupt their plans in the ME?[1] In fact, I'd like to know why I should trust 3 letter agencies because their accountability to the public right now seems to be nonexistent. 1 - https://theintercept.com/2016/12/15/if-donald-trump-is-so-upset-about-iraq-wmd-lies-why-is-he-hiring-john-bolton/ https://theintercept.com/2016/12/15/if-donald-trump-is-so-up...
- vasilipupkin 9y ago"The 17 intelligence agencies, including the Coast Guard Intelligence has irrefutable proof Russia overturned our election results?" how is this relevant to anything? russia can have many aims in hacking during the election, besides actually overturning the election results. I am always amused by this zero or 1 logic.
- briandear 9y agoFalsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. Those that claim all 17 agencies had evidence when that is absurd (did Geospacial have evidence?) — making such a claim gives reason to doubt all the claims. I think was the point being made.