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I LOVE this feature, but it has only one problem: when I'm in a container and I press Ctrl+T (new tab), the new tab opens in the default container. This doesn't

by ff_ 9y ago

I LOVE this feature, but it has only one problem: when I'm in a container and I press Ctrl+T (new tab), the new tab opens in the default container. This doesn't make sense, I want it to stay in the same container. This was also discussed in the issue tracker, in a now closed issue, in which the intuitive behaviour (staying in the same container) was proposed, but got sidetracked and in the end implemented something totally different. So if anyone from Firefox is listening here: please PLEASE consider implementing Ctrl+T in the same container :)

dingdingdang 9y ago
This point is super important usability wise - gets upvote from me too.
sametmax 9y ago
Same if you do ctrl + enter in the url or a containerized tab. And you still have no way to have bookmarks that open in a specific container. (you can however flag a URL to always open in a container since recently). But it's just because the feature is very new. They do listen to the community, and will fix it on the long run. At the very beginning containers where unusable, because even links you clicked would not open in the same container :) The community reported it and it was fixed. So don't worry, it takes time, but Mozilla will do the right thing. They most often do, that's the beauty of it and why I kept using Firefox to support them, even when it was clearly less practical than chrome.
- jimktrains2 9y ago
  > you can however flag a URL to always open in a container since recently That's almost exactly the opposite usecase I have for using accounts in Chrome.
dannysu 9y ago
Yes, I wish it worked this way! Even if with another shortcut that's ok too. GitHub issue: https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462 https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462
MayeulC 9y ago
If it works like in test pilot, try middle-clicking the new tab button. I usually use it to open a new tab next to the one I am reading, and it opens it in the same container (which is sometimes slightly annoying). Of course, this is no replacement for a keyboard shortcut.
- s_kilk 9y ago
  Yup, that does it.
groovecoder 9y ago
(Someone from Firefox here) It's a popular request; about as popular as everyone who wants Ctrl+T to open in the default container. :) So, for our core experience we picked the default behavior that helps maximize the privacy and security protections of Containers. The good news is that, with the contextualIdentities extension API (exclusive to Firefox!), add-on authors can make their own add-ons to change this behavior. Like Taborama is doing: https://github.com/kesselborn/taborama https://github.com/kesselborn/taborama Check out https://developer.mozilla.org/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/contextualIdentities https://developer.mozilla.org/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/cont... for more info on making Container-aware extensions.
- iamvfl 9y ago
  If both are equally popular, it would make sense that this be an easily configurable option in the browser's settings. Favouring one option over the other will inevitably alienate about half the consumers of this awesome feature, which seems like a bit of a waste to me.
  - tonyztan 9y ago
    I agree. If both are popular, it should be a settings option for users to configure.
    - groovecoder 9y ago
      I think there's a GitHub issue for it too. Please upvote!
      - PerryCox 9y ago
        Got a link?
        Splendor 9y ago
        https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462 https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462
johnchristopher 9y ago
Yeah. As it is right now I'll just stick with the multi profile extension.
nachtigall 9y ago
Like someone burried in the comment tree said: CTRL+clicking the "+" sign will open a new tab on the same container.
smichel17 9y ago
As I've already remarked here[0] on github, the real problem is that you're forced to choose the container before you decide what you're doing in the new tab. [0]: https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/245#issuecomment-287631854 https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/245#i...
yedpodtrzitko 9y ago
> This doesn't make sense, I want it to stay in the same container. I'd say it's highly subjective and it may vary case per case. Also this would completely defeat the security purpose of this feature. Imagine someone has opened a "Banking" tab, and want to convert an account number to IBAN, or just convert amount between two currencies. You'll need a new tab for that. But you definitely don't want to do that in the "Banking" session, right?

by ff_ 9y ago

dingdingdang 9y ago

This point is super important usability wise - gets upvote from me too.

sametmax 9y ago

Same if you do ctrl + enter in the url or a containerized tab. And you still have no way to have bookmarks that open in a specific container. (you can however flag a URL to always open in a container since recently). But it's just because the feature is very new. They do listen to the community, and will fix it on the long run. At the very beginning containers where unusable, because even links you clicked would not open in the same container :) The community reported it and it was fixed. So don't worry, it takes time, but Mozilla will do the right thing. They most often do, that's the beauty of it and why I kept using Firefox to support them, even when it was clearly less practical than chrome.

jimktrains2 9y ago
> you can however flag a URL to always open in a container since recently That's almost exactly the opposite usecase I have for using accounts in Chrome.

dannysu 9y ago

Yes, I wish it worked this way! Even if with another shortcut that's ok too. GitHub issue: https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462 https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462

MayeulC 9y ago

If it works like in test pilot, try middle-clicking the new tab button. I usually use it to open a new tab next to the one I am reading, and it opens it in the same container (which is sometimes slightly annoying). Of course, this is no replacement for a keyboard shortcut.

s_kilk 9y ago
Yup, that does it.

groovecoder 9y ago

(Someone from Firefox here) It's a popular request; about as popular as everyone who wants Ctrl+T to open in the default container. :) So, for our core experience we picked the default behavior that helps maximize the privacy and security protections of Containers. The good news is that, with the contextualIdentities extension API (exclusive to Firefox!), add-on authors can make their own add-ons to change this behavior. Like Taborama is doing: https://github.com/kesselborn/taborama https://github.com/kesselborn/taborama Check out https://developer.mozilla.org/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/contextualIdentities https://developer.mozilla.org/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/cont... for more info on making Container-aware extensions.

iamvfl 9y ago
If both are equally popular, it would make sense that this be an easily configurable option in the browser's settings. Favouring one option over the other will inevitably alienate about half the consumers of this awesome feature, which seems like a bit of a waste to me.
- tonyztan 9y ago
  I agree. If both are popular, it should be a settings option for users to configure.
  - groovecoder 9y ago
    I think there's a GitHub issue for it too. Please upvote!
    - PerryCox 9y ago
      Got a link?
      - Splendor 9y ago
        https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462 https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/462

johnchristopher 9y ago

Yeah. As it is right now I'll just stick with the multi profile extension.

nachtigall 9y ago

Like someone burried in the comment tree said: CTRL+clicking the "+" sign will open a new tab on the same container.

smichel17 9y ago

As I've already remarked here[0] on github, the real problem is that you're forced to choose the container before you decide what you're doing in the new tab. [0]: https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/245#issuecomment-287631854 https://github.com/mozilla/testpilot-containers/issues/245#i...

yedpodtrzitko 9y ago

> This doesn't make sense, I want it to stay in the same container. I'd say it's highly subjective and it may vary case per case. Also this would completely defeat the security purpose of this feature. Imagine someone has opened a "Banking" tab, and want to convert an account number to IBAN, or just convert amount between two currencies. You'll need a new tab for that. But you definitely don't want to do that in the "Banking" session, right?