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>And they are not helping your damn social life! First of all, I use Facebook in a similar way (dedicated email, sandboxed browser, external tracking disabled

>And they are not helping your damn social life! First of all, I use Facebook in a similar way (dedicated email, sandboxed browser, external tracking disabled (I know it still tracks me internally), not entirely my real name, no mobile apps, all paranoia privacy settings on, don't really share anything). And I only signed up there a year or two ago. But Facebook absolutely helped my social (and even professional) life. Even if I can reach people by other means, it doesn't change the fact that they prefer to keep in touch with Messenger, we have our private group chats there. Facebook lets me keep up with cultural (art/music) events, and also local dev meetups. I have my current relationship thanks to Facebook as well (I met her in real life first, but we only started to hang out because I looked her up and added her on Facebook and we started chatting there). I even got my dream dev job accidentally, because of a Facebook share by an acquaintance. Buy/sell groups also got me a lot of good deals, including my current apartment. That doesn't change the fact that, as a company, ethically, strategically etc. I despise Facebook. I hate their manipulative practices. Most of the information shared there is pure shit (but I can more or less choose not to follow it). Regardless, by not being there I'd be losing more than gaining. Now, LinkedIn I detest even more, thanks to the unsolicited invites from strangers that I get to my private email, even though I haven't even registered there, and I have no intention of doing so.

coldtea 9y ago
>Facebook lets me keep up with cultural (art/music) events, and also local dev meetups. It's 2017. Between aggregators, dedicated sites, instant notifications, apps, Calendar sync et all, we probably have 1000 more ways than every decade in the 20th century to keep up with cultural events and local dev meetups. I don't think 60s', 70s and 80s culture and art events (and event goers) suffered because they didn't have Facebook to tell them... if anything, from concerts to art exhibition the scene was even more vibrant!
- mollusk 9y ago
  It might be more country specific (I don't live in the United States, nor in a metropolis), and specific to the art/music scene and venues I'm interested in, but Facebook really covers most bases for me. And I often discover great events because some Facebook friend is interested in them. Some dev meetups are crossposted to meetup.com or eventbrite.com, but only some, and Facebook aggregates both for me. There's even a group for local IT events. I understand that things happened before 21st century, obviously, there's still posters, word of mouth, newsletters (in some cases, but they're not that popular over here), but these days, at least where I live, event organizers are using Facebook as a core platform to spread awareness. I certainly didn't know about a lot of these events before I joined Facebook. And there's events like bike rides, hiking trips etc. organized by individuals... on Facebook.
  - nyxtom 9y ago
    I wouldn't mind any of this about Facebook except for the fact that it is mostly a walled off portion of the internet. Content has a hard time behaving like a normal part of the internet. So to make it work you absolutely have to have an account.
    - ryanmerket 9y ago
      Not totally true. You can invite people via email to your Facebook events.
- pjc50 9y ago
  > we probably have 1000 more ways than every decade in the 20th century to keep up with cultural events and local dev meetups. Yes, that's part of the problem. That's part of why so many people prefer to have one way of keeping up, and choose Facebook for it by default because that's what "everyone else" uses.
- fixie 9y ago
  That's true. However, for better or worse, FB knows a lot about me (and my friends) so it can recommend somewhat related events to me without any effort on my part. There's at least some value there.
- jamespo 9y ago
  But if facebook was around in the 60s onwards what do you think the organizers would be using to publicize the events?
  - coldtea 9y ago
    They would. But if Facebook was around in the 60s, there would be no 60s -- the spirit I mean.
cabalamat 9y ago
> Now, LinkedIn I detest even more, thanks to the unsolicited invites from strangers that I get to my private email, even though I haven't even registered there, and I have no intention of doing so. I stopped getting spam email from LinkedIn after I set up an account (which I never use).

coldtea 9y ago

>Facebook lets me keep up with cultural (art/music) events, and also local dev meetups. It's 2017. Between aggregators, dedicated sites, instant notifications, apps, Calendar sync et all, we probably have 1000 more ways than every decade in the 20th century to keep up with cultural events and local dev meetups. I don't think 60s', 70s and 80s culture and art events (and event goers) suffered because they didn't have Facebook to tell them... if anything, from concerts to art exhibition the scene was even more vibrant!

mollusk 9y ago
It might be more country specific (I don't live in the United States, nor in a metropolis), and specific to the art/music scene and venues I'm interested in, but Facebook really covers most bases for me. And I often discover great events because some Facebook friend is interested in them. Some dev meetups are crossposted to meetup.com or eventbrite.com, but only some, and Facebook aggregates both for me. There's even a group for local IT events. I understand that things happened before 21st century, obviously, there's still posters, word of mouth, newsletters (in some cases, but they're not that popular over here), but these days, at least where I live, event organizers are using Facebook as a core platform to spread awareness. I certainly didn't know about a lot of these events before I joined Facebook. And there's events like bike rides, hiking trips etc. organized by individuals... on Facebook.
- nyxtom 9y ago
  I wouldn't mind any of this about Facebook except for the fact that it is mostly a walled off portion of the internet. Content has a hard time behaving like a normal part of the internet. So to make it work you absolutely have to have an account.
  - ryanmerket 9y ago
    Not totally true. You can invite people via email to your Facebook events.
pjc50 9y ago
> we probably have 1000 more ways than every decade in the 20th century to keep up with cultural events and local dev meetups. Yes, that's part of the problem. That's part of why so many people prefer to have one way of keeping up, and choose Facebook for it by default because that's what "everyone else" uses.
fixie 9y ago
That's true. However, for better or worse, FB knows a lot about me (and my friends) so it can recommend somewhat related events to me without any effort on my part. There's at least some value there.
jamespo 9y ago
But if facebook was around in the 60s onwards what do you think the organizers would be using to publicize the events?
- coldtea 9y ago
  They would. But if Facebook was around in the 60s, there would be no 60s -- the spirit I mean.

cabalamat 9y ago

> Now, LinkedIn I detest even more, thanks to the unsolicited invites from strangers that I get to my private email, even though I haven't even registered there, and I have no intention of doing so. I stopped getting spam email from LinkedIn after I set up an account (which I never use).