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If I understand correctly, this should be able to run on any Intel platform, so it's not bound to Apple-labelled hardware, right? I'm asking because publishing

If I understand correctly, this should be able to run on any Intel platform, so it's not bound to Apple-labelled hardware, right? I'm asking because publishing cross-platform mobile apps is currently a hassle, as the iOS one can only be done from MacOS, which itself only runs on Apple hardware. As a consequence, I have an old Macbook lying around and dust it off everytime I make a release. A VM running anywhere would come a long way. Also, I'm aware of hackintosh VMs, but it's a hassle to set up (and yeah, borderline legal, but I'm on borderline patience with all that inconvenience by now).

sigjuice 9y ago
This is not macOS. According to the screenshot of the latest build, it doesn't look like it even boots all the way to a shell. It is unlikely to ever help you with mobile app publishing.
- blauditore 9y ago
  That's sad. I hoped due to their similarity, it might be possible to run Xcode and Apploader (or whatever it's called) on PureDarwin.
  - skissane 9y ago
    The native macOS GUI has never been open-source. So pure open source Darwin (without any closed source Apple bits) has never been able to run native macOS GUI apps such as Xcode. Open source Darwin can only run non-GUI apps (text mode apps and daemons), and X11 GUI apps.
- FlyingSnake 9y ago
  From the FAQs: "PureDarwin can run on VMware as well as real Intel-based hardware. We are successfully running a web server, have built hundreds of software packages with MacPorts running on PureDarwin, including ssh, apache2, tightvnc, Xfce, and others." I personally haven't run it, but I think it's pretty usable if it can do the things mentioned above.
  - hollander 9y ago
    If I would need to run Apache, SSH, VNC - why would I go this difficult road? I can install Debian, Ubuntu or Centos, with desktop if I need it, and much more support online. What does PureDarwin offer that Linux doesn't?
jbg_ 9y ago
There are various companies online that give you remote access to a macOS VM running on Apple hardware, reasonably inexpensively. I use one for Mac & iOS builds. The one I use says in the contract that I am actually buying fractional ownership of the computer, along with hosting. I guess this gets around some Apple terms somehow.
- derefr 9y ago
  Alternately, the VMWare ESXi bare-metal hypervisor is considered a legitimate "hardware" configuration that macOS will install under. If you have a spare server-grade PC laying about, or are willing to reformat a Linux server to put ESXi between it and the metal, it's a good option to get a local, "authorized" macOS VM.

sigjuice 9y ago

This is not macOS. According to the screenshot of the latest build, it doesn't look like it even boots all the way to a shell. It is unlikely to ever help you with mobile app publishing.

blauditore 9y ago
That's sad. I hoped due to their similarity, it might be possible to run Xcode and Apploader (or whatever it's called) on PureDarwin.
- skissane 9y ago
  The native macOS GUI has never been open-source. So pure open source Darwin (without any closed source Apple bits) has never been able to run native macOS GUI apps such as Xcode. Open source Darwin can only run non-GUI apps (text mode apps and daemons), and X11 GUI apps.
FlyingSnake 9y ago
From the FAQs: "PureDarwin can run on VMware as well as real Intel-based hardware. We are successfully running a web server, have built hundreds of software packages with MacPorts running on PureDarwin, including ssh, apache2, tightvnc, Xfce, and others." I personally haven't run it, but I think it's pretty usable if it can do the things mentioned above.
- hollander 9y ago
  If I would need to run Apache, SSH, VNC - why would I go this difficult road? I can install Debian, Ubuntu or Centos, with desktop if I need it, and much more support online. What does PureDarwin offer that Linux doesn't?

jbg_ 9y ago

There are various companies online that give you remote access to a macOS VM running on Apple hardware, reasonably inexpensively. I use one for Mac & iOS builds. The one I use says in the contract that I am actually buying fractional ownership of the computer, along with hosting. I guess this gets around some Apple terms somehow.

derefr 9y ago
Alternately, the VMWare ESXi bare-metal hypervisor is considered a legitimate "hardware" configuration that macOS will install under. If you have a spare server-grade PC laying about, or are willing to reformat a Linux server to put ESXi between it and the metal, it's a good option to get a local, "authorized" macOS VM.