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That discussion is extremely weird. Posters are claiming that since Speech recognition took decades so must self driving cars. Speech recognition decades ago ha

That discussion is extremely weird. Posters are claiming that since Speech recognition took decades so must self driving cars. Speech recognition decades ago has nothing to do with speech recognition today. I understand the skepticism but I hope HN posters can make stronger arguments in the future.

jhall1468 9y ago
I agree. Transformative technology has this effect on people. The other day I was arguing with someone that said we need true Artificial General Intellegence before full autonomy is available. I'm fine with skepticism, but these types of unfounded claims drive me crazy. If you want to argue the companies aren't really moving the tech as fast as they claim, post actual evidence, not some nonsense about speech recognition in the 90s.
- owebmaster 9y ago
  Technologists have a bad habit of not taking consideration the political and social sides of innovation. The success of autonomous cars depends less on the tech as much as it would depends more on politics. As tech don't mix well with politics and the interests of the majority, autonomous cars will only happen when the tech is good enough to overcome politics. Some people think that this will take decades if not centuries.
  - mcovey 9y ago
    Infrastructure support is not there yet either, which is kind of a political issue as well, but also a future need.
noobermin 9y ago
Sigh, I don't know how that comment got to the top. This[0] for me was a more interesting discussion (and I ranted in a reply). Basically, level 5 automation (the kind that would require no human interaction, which is what the comment above is referring to, is a long way off according to [0], but it's not like other things like level 4 automation can't happen soon and be immensely helpful for society. But it isn't going to put hundreds of drivers out of work. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15116991 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15116991

jhall1468 9y ago

I agree. Transformative technology has this effect on people. The other day I was arguing with someone that said we need true Artificial General Intellegence before full autonomy is available. I'm fine with skepticism, but these types of unfounded claims drive me crazy. If you want to argue the companies aren't really moving the tech as fast as they claim, post actual evidence, not some nonsense about speech recognition in the 90s.

owebmaster 9y ago
Technologists have a bad habit of not taking consideration the political and social sides of innovation. The success of autonomous cars depends less on the tech as much as it would depends more on politics. As tech don't mix well with politics and the interests of the majority, autonomous cars will only happen when the tech is good enough to overcome politics. Some people think that this will take decades if not centuries.
- mcovey 9y ago
  Infrastructure support is not there yet either, which is kind of a political issue as well, but also a future need.

noobermin 9y ago

Sigh, I don't know how that comment got to the top. This[0] for me was a more interesting discussion (and I ranted in a reply). Basically, level 5 automation (the kind that would require no human interaction, which is what the comment above is referring to, is a long way off according to [0], but it's not like other things like level 4 automation can't happen soon and be immensely helpful for society. But it isn't going to put hundreds of drivers out of work. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15116991 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15116991