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Yep, though I've been upgrading that system since Mint 14 (with Cinnamon). Compared to Arch the maintenance cost is orders of magnitude lower. Compared to Ubunt

by zamber 9y ago

Yep, though I've been upgrading that system since Mint 14 (with Cinnamon). Compared to Arch the maintenance cost is orders of magnitude lower. Compared to Ubuntu (2y, at work, upgraded from 16.04 LTS -> 16.10) it feels higher mainly because stuff is less tested and can also break with regular updates (unless they fixed their workflow to remedy that). - For mortal-level usage -> Ubuntu - For mortal-level usage when you don't like Ubuntu -> Mint - For Linux junkies -> Arch EDIT - formatting

ernst_klim 9y ago
>For mortal-level usage I had to choose distro for my gf, so I'd looked for some newbie friendly. I'd installed ubuntu 16.04 in qemu and I found that gnome-software does not work properly: there are a few packages available to install from gui (no scribus, no emacs, no kicad etc). Literally a year passed since lt came out and it has such unacceptable issue for a newbie-friendly distro. Hopefully fedora just works.
- zamber 9y ago
  Package availability issues -> there are PPA's for everything. A less known thing about LTS releases is that the repos are smaller because of the testing they have to do to make it up to LTS standards. Main reason I moved from 16.04 to 16.10. I don't have direct experience with fedora but I heard that it's nice. Will have to try it someday ;).
  - ernst_klim 9y ago
    >Package availability issues It's not about availability, it's about possibility of installing packages that are in the main repo with the default software manager gui (gnome-software). In ubuntu lts I found no way to install scribus with gnome-software though it is in repository. This is just a bad quality of the distro itself and I wouldn't call suck behavior ``user friendly'' https://askubuntu.com/questions/783748/16-04-ubuntu-software-has-much-less-applications-now-why https://askubuntu.com/questions/783748/16-04-ubuntu-software...
    - zamber 9y ago
      It's in the repo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus/1.4.6+dfsg-4 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus/1.4.6+dfsg-4 so your scenario should work. In comparison arch: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/scribus/ https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/scribus/ Fedora: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/scribus https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/scribus IIRC you have to enable multiverse repos in Ubuntu manually (doable with the GUI or somewhere in settings). 2017 will be the year of Linux on the desktop :P.

by zamber 9y ago

ernst_klim 9y ago

>For mortal-level usage I had to choose distro for my gf, so I'd looked for some newbie friendly. I'd installed ubuntu 16.04 in qemu and I found that gnome-software does not work properly: there are a few packages available to install from gui (no scribus, no emacs, no kicad etc). Literally a year passed since lt came out and it has such unacceptable issue for a newbie-friendly distro. Hopefully fedora just works.

zamber 9y ago
Package availability issues -> there are PPA's for everything. A less known thing about LTS releases is that the repos are smaller because of the testing they have to do to make it up to LTS standards. Main reason I moved from 16.04 to 16.10. I don't have direct experience with fedora but I heard that it's nice. Will have to try it someday ;).
- ernst_klim 9y ago
  >Package availability issues It's not about availability, it's about possibility of installing packages that are in the main repo with the default software manager gui (gnome-software). In ubuntu lts I found no way to install scribus with gnome-software though it is in repository. This is just a bad quality of the distro itself and I wouldn't call suck behavior ``user friendly'' https://askubuntu.com/questions/783748/16-04-ubuntu-software-has-much-less-applications-now-why https://askubuntu.com/questions/783748/16-04-ubuntu-software...
  - zamber 9y ago
    It's in the repo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus/1.4.6+dfsg-4 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scribus/1.4.6+dfsg-4 so your scenario should work. In comparison arch: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/scribus/ https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/scribus/ Fedora: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/scribus https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/scribus IIRC you have to enable multiverse repos in Ubuntu manually (doable with the GUI or somewhere in settings). 2017 will be the year of Linux on the desktop :P.