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> 1. Pascal Pascal is a "hidden" gem in the area of languages. Sadly not enough pus for it, but imagine if it have the push that other languages have...

• agumonkey 9y ago
  Now I need to finish my lisp.pas
  • mamcx 9y ago
    You will like this: https://github.com/kanaka/mal https://github.com/kanaka/mal (Have implementation in pascal!)
    • agumonkey 9y ago
      I try to not look at it to not steal ideas :)
• open-source-ux 9y ago
  "Pascal is a "hidden" gem in the area of languages" I agree. Programmers won't look at it because they perceive it to be old and out-of-date. But the language hasn't stood still. It's a fast, low-memory language. FreePascal with the Lazarus IDE is one of the best cross-platform development toolkits for building native desktop apps. Sadly a lot of programmers can never see beyond the verbose (but readable) syntax.
  • Kamgunz 9y ago
    Maybe somebody needs to create a more palatable language, that'll transpile (I know, I know, compile) into pascal?
    • mamcx 9y ago
      This guys made a pascal-like language: http://www.elementscompiler.com/elements/oxygene/ http://www.elementscompiler.com/elements/oxygene/ Exist various dialects of pascal (Modula, Oberon, etc) so is not something so far in the wind. But if you lose too much of the syntax you remove part of the charm.
    • fasquoika 9y ago
      Palatable how? Pascal's syntax is not especially different from that of most scripting languages
      • andrewflnr 9y ago
        Every time I look at the syntax, it feels really verbose. IIRC some dialects require all caps or initial caps on keywords; at any rate that's how most examples are shown, and it's rather off-putting. Superficial, I know, but I'm probably not the only one.
        • fasquoika 9y ago
          I don't know about other implementations but FreePascal is completely case insensitive. Identifiers are actually treated the same if the only difference is case. I don't particularly like this, but I've never seen it actually be an issue
    • pjmlp 9y ago
      That was what I was looking for in Go, but they seem to have other goals in mind. Failing that there is always Ada, .NET Native, Kotlin Native, D,...
• CoreXtreme 9y ago
  Ruby also has gem.
• psyc 9y ago
  When I started programming in the early 90's, I remember Pascal being a serious contender, with C vs Pascal compilers being a pretty evenly matched contest.
• mac01021 9y ago
  But why should it's memory utilization be so much lower? Pascal and C give the programmer basically the same control over memory layout, no?
  • subwayclub 9y ago
    Basically, C's semantics assume too little - everything is a primitive type or a pointer dressed up to look like something else. Pascal has a stronger notion of types and this allows for additional automatic optimization where they're relevant - memory layout just happens to be one such area.
    • addHocker 9y ago
      I miss the ability to pair structures as "antagonistic" - aka if one exists the other is not, thus allowing for unions of various datatypes who guarantee that if they exist- the shared memory they reside in is theirs and theirs alone.
  • dmytrish 9y ago
    Just a wild guess: Pascal may use tightly packed structures without alignment by default?
• nine_k 9y ago
  Much of Pascal (or, rather, Modula-2 and Oberon) is revived inside Go.
  • continuational 9y ago
    What parts of Pascal do you recognize in Go?
    • pjmlp 9y ago
      The id type way instead of type id. The way methods are attached to types appeared first in Oberon-2. Type assertions are similar to Oberon. The unsafe package idea is similar to SYSTEM in Oberon or Pascal. The stronger type semantics forcing explicit casts.
  • dom96 9y ago
    And even more so is revived in Nim.