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This is a good thing. You end up with cultural ghettos if too many people from one culture move to a place too quickly.

by jbob2000 9y ago

saalweachter 9y ago
Yeah, the Midwest's culture was irreparably damaged by the large numbers of Germans and Scandinavians who moved there all at once.
- nucleardog 9y ago
  I get the knee-jerk reaction to anything like this is to shout "THAT'S RACIST" and get on with life, but this is definitely a thing that's happening. Whether it's damaging or not is a separate question. My partner is, for the sake of argument and to remove emotion, let's say Romulan. She came here from Romulus over 10 years ago to attend school. Her parents have started coming here in the past year or two on and off. In the couple years I've been with her, I've come to discover there's an entire shadow society of Romulans operating within the city I live in that doesn't operate by the laws or regulations that the rest of society operates under. Admission is granted on the basis of being Romulan. None of these people, including my partner for the first decade she was here, really have or had any incentive to participate in the existing society. It's much less effort to only associate with other Romulans. They have more immediately in common with them, and fewer barriers. And they can get everything they need from the other Romulans. I have no wish for these people to give up their culture. Our existing culture is described as a "cultural mosaic" - many people's own cultures getting along. I think that's just fine. And I appreciate getting to experience everyone's culture (within the bounds of some basic ideals such as our stance towards human rights and equality). The isolation does concern me. If there's no effort to intentionally cohabitate except in the sense of physical proximity - to just generally understand each other - I can see an issue of empathy arising. I can see some pretty destructive divides forming or deepening, as in the case of the current xenophobia. I don't think that's sustainable long term.
  - fapjacks 9y ago
    This totally. My wife is Vulcan, and I have also discovered there is a huge undercurrent of Vulcans which operate as a kind of shadow society. Being married to a Vulcan isn't enough to get admission into this culture, and neither is speaking Vulcan, or having Vulcan children. But it's a defensive measure. Safety in numbers and distrust of outsiders.
calvinbhai 9y ago
Totally agree with you. Based on your logic, Charlottesville would never have happened, if there were fewer white people in the US

This is a good thing. You end up with cultural ghettos if too many people from one culture move to a place too quickly.

Yeah, the Midwest's culture was irreparably damaged by the large numbers of Germans and Scandinavians who moved there all at once.

nucleardog 9y ago
I get the knee-jerk reaction to anything like this is to shout "THAT'S RACIST" and get on with life, but this is definitely a thing that's happening. Whether it's damaging or not is a separate question. My partner is, for the sake of argument and to remove emotion, let's say Romulan. She came here from Romulus over 10 years ago to attend school. Her parents have started coming here in the past year or two on and off. In the couple years I've been with her, I've come to discover there's an entire shadow society of Romulans operating within the city I live in that doesn't operate by the laws or regulations that the rest of society operates under. Admission is granted on the basis of being Romulan. None of these people, including my partner for the first decade she was here, really have or had any incentive to participate in the existing society. It's much less effort to only associate with other Romulans. They have more immediately in common with them, and fewer barriers. And they can get everything they need from the other Romulans. I have no wish for these people to give up their culture. Our existing culture is described as a "cultural mosaic" - many people's own cultures getting along. I think that's just fine. And I appreciate getting to experience everyone's culture (within the bounds of some basic ideals such as our stance towards human rights and equality). The isolation does concern me. If there's no effort to intentionally cohabitate except in the sense of physical proximity - to just generally understand each other - I can see an issue of empathy arising. I can see some pretty destructive divides forming or deepening, as in the case of the current xenophobia. I don't think that's sustainable long term.
- fapjacks 9y ago
  This totally. My wife is Vulcan, and I have also discovered there is a huge undercurrent of Vulcans which operate as a kind of shadow society. Being married to a Vulcan isn't enough to get admission into this culture, and neither is speaking Vulcan, or having Vulcan children. But it's a defensive measure. Safety in numbers and distrust of outsiders.

calvinbhai 9y ago

Totally agree with you. Based on your logic, Charlottesville would never have happened, if there were fewer white people in the US