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We are not the same ecosystem as Windows Phone and we will use different tech than they did - and even if we fail (which I don't think at all), it is part of li

We are not the same ecosystem as Windows Phone and we will use different tech than they did - and even if we fail (which I don't think at all), it is part of life, work. And for the end user - I don't think community failed, it just didn't have the multibillion dollar marketing machine behind it and also GNU/Linux commercial activities went into server and rarely into end user app, we plan to change this.

s73ver_ 9y ago
"We are not the same ecosystem as Windows Phone and we will use different tech than they did" I never said you did. You still face the same issues. It's not like an ecosystem succeeds or fails because it chooses a certain language. "and even if we fail (which I don't think at all), it is part of life, work." That really does not inspire confidence in the project. "And for the end user - I don't think community failed, it just didn't have the multibillion dollar marketing machine behind it and also GNU/Linux commercial activities went into server and rarely into end user app, we plan to change this." I wasn't talking about marketing. I was talking about user-centric design, and usability of the software. And GNU/Linux stuff has largely lagged behind other, product based offerings in these regards.
- zlatan_todoric 9y ago
  Sorry, but obviously not even Microsoft with its stash of money can't guarantee something will be success story, so we can't either. We are perfectly capable to make this device, we can't guarantee it will be something millions will end up buying. And the ecosystem is important for easy of creation or porting stuff (not just code-wise, but how you approach to such things) and also as I mentioned here - we also plan to work on utilizing Android support via anbox or shashlik which could potentially remove that gap (also people need to realize that Google is developing only handful of apps, those millions come from third-party devs).

s73ver_ 9y ago

"We are not the same ecosystem as Windows Phone and we will use different tech than they did" I never said you did. You still face the same issues. It's not like an ecosystem succeeds or fails because it chooses a certain language. "and even if we fail (which I don't think at all), it is part of life, work." That really does not inspire confidence in the project. "And for the end user - I don't think community failed, it just didn't have the multibillion dollar marketing machine behind it and also GNU/Linux commercial activities went into server and rarely into end user app, we plan to change this." I wasn't talking about marketing. I was talking about user-centric design, and usability of the software. And GNU/Linux stuff has largely lagged behind other, product based offerings in these regards.

zlatan_todoric 9y ago
Sorry, but obviously not even Microsoft with its stash of money can't guarantee something will be success story, so we can't either. We are perfectly capable to make this device, we can't guarantee it will be something millions will end up buying. And the ecosystem is important for easy of creation or porting stuff (not just code-wise, but how you approach to such things) and also as I mentioned here - we also plan to work on utilizing Android support via anbox or shashlik which could potentially remove that gap (also people need to realize that Google is developing only handful of apps, those millions come from third-party devs).