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What do you recommend instead?

by j_s 9y ago

pasta 9y ago
Sailfish OS
nwah1 9y ago
I was hopeful about lots of alternatives, but Firefox OS is dead for now and Sailfish is hard to come by without rooting. Rooting your phone isn't always possible. Microsoft controls both CyanogenMod, which is often the best opption, and of course Windows Mobile, but in many ways MS is actually more open source friendly than Google nowadays. (and both are obviously way more open than Apple) Honestly, I'm rooting for Microsoft in the mobile space right now simply because the more competition there is, the more need for cross-platform standards. But I'm also rooting for Sailfish and Firefox (assuming they try again when Servo is done). They all have interesting pros and cons.
- snthd 9y ago
  Cyanogenmod is now just a defunct brand - the spirit of the thing lives on in the LineageOS fork (sans corporate backing).
jhasse 9y ago
LineageOS https://www.lineageos.org/ https://www.lineageos.org/ + F-Droid https://f-droid.org/ https://f-droid.org/
- pyrophane 9y ago
  Does LineageOS integrate google apps/services by default?
  - snthd 9y ago
    No, adding "gapps" is an optional (unsupported) step after imaging the device.
- rhizome 9y ago
  Bizarrely, clicking on "Downloads" for LineageOS takes you to what looks like a bug tracker and is actually a changelog. Yes, you click for your model in the left aside, but it sure takes some figuring out.
  - jhasse 9y ago
    Yeah, the homepage could definitely use some improvements.
- gsnedders 9y ago
  LineageOS's security story is appalling though. https://cve.lineageos.org/kernels https://cve.lineageos.org/kernels is their tracker for CVEs in non-deprecated kernels they ship in officially supported devices: no kernel they ship has 100% of CVEs patched, and both mean and median are about 49% of CVEs patched. And this is before we start even considering the firmware blobs that are shipped that haven't had security updates in years.
  - Rotareti 9y ago
    Plus, you have to execute non-reproducible binaries in order to install LinageOS on your phone.
milcron 9y ago
CopperheadOS for both security and privacy. But device support is limited to the Google flagships.
bhhaskin 9y ago
Support Ubuntu Touch. Open Source linux!

What do you recommend instead?

by j_s 9y ago

What do you recommend instead?

pasta 9y ago

Sailfish OS

nwah1 9y ago

I was hopeful about lots of alternatives, but Firefox OS is dead for now and Sailfish is hard to come by without rooting. Rooting your phone isn't always possible. Microsoft controls both CyanogenMod, which is often the best opption, and of course Windows Mobile, but in many ways MS is actually more open source friendly than Google nowadays. (and both are obviously way more open than Apple) Honestly, I'm rooting for Microsoft in the mobile space right now simply because the more competition there is, the more need for cross-platform standards. But I'm also rooting for Sailfish and Firefox (assuming they try again when Servo is done). They all have interesting pros and cons.

snthd 9y ago
Cyanogenmod is now just a defunct brand - the spirit of the thing lives on in the LineageOS fork (sans corporate backing).

jhasse 9y ago

LineageOS https://www.lineageos.org/ https://www.lineageos.org/ + F-Droid https://f-droid.org/ https://f-droid.org/

pyrophane 9y ago
Does LineageOS integrate google apps/services by default?
- snthd 9y ago
  No, adding "gapps" is an optional (unsupported) step after imaging the device.
rhizome 9y ago
Bizarrely, clicking on "Downloads" for LineageOS takes you to what looks like a bug tracker and is actually a changelog. Yes, you click for your model in the left aside, but it sure takes some figuring out.
- jhasse 9y ago
  Yeah, the homepage could definitely use some improvements.
gsnedders 9y ago
LineageOS's security story is appalling though. https://cve.lineageos.org/kernels https://cve.lineageos.org/kernels is their tracker for CVEs in non-deprecated kernels they ship in officially supported devices: no kernel they ship has 100% of CVEs patched, and both mean and median are about 49% of CVEs patched. And this is before we start even considering the firmware blobs that are shipped that haven't had security updates in years.
- Rotareti 9y ago
  Plus, you have to execute non-reproducible binaries in order to install LinageOS on your phone.

milcron 9y ago

CopperheadOS for both security and privacy. But device support is limited to the Google flagships.

bhhaskin 9y ago

Support Ubuntu Touch. Open Source linux!