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> Dropbox does not encrypt your data server side (or at the very least, can easily decrypt it). I think claims like this need to be backed up. Now, obviously
by hellofunk 9y ago
> Dropbox does not encrypt your data server side (or at the very least, can easily decrypt it).
I think claims like this need to be backed up.
Now, obviously a biased source, but Dropbox itself says this:
"Each file is split into discrete blocks, which are encrypted using a strong cipher. Only blocks that have been modified are synced. Each individual encrypted file block is retrieved based on its hash value, and an additional layer of encryption is provided for all file blocks at rest using a strong cipher. Both dedicated internal security teams and third-party security specialists protect these services through the identification and mitigation of risks and vulnerabilities. These groups conduct regular application, network, and other security testing and auditing to ensure the security of our back-end network. In addition, our responsible disclosure policy promotes the discovery and reporting of security vulnerabilities." [0]
So we have files that are broken apart, each part encrypted, then the whole combination encrypted again, then lots of security auditing in-house and outside, and with incentives for people that discover flaws to report them. That seems pretty industry-standard to me, but I'd like to know more.
I really have some difficulty imagining a company like Dropbox, which knows how important the documents it stores are, being careless with security. Not saying they may not be, but it's going to take more than an HN comment that includes some politicized perspective about the Bush administration to convince me.
Furthermore, this article [1] claims that Dropbox encrypts files on the server even stronger than Google does. It also points out that user behavior is usually the main security hole, which will always be true with any service.
[0] https://www.dropbox.com/security https://www.dropbox.com/security
[1] https://www.virtru.com/blog/dropbox-encryption/ https://www.virtru.com/blog/dropbox-encryption/
- GranPC 9y agoIt does sound like they can easily decrypt the data, since they have the keys.
- jasonsync 9y agoYes, Dropbox uses encryption in transit and at rest, and security would certainly a top priority for any custodian of that much data. Dropbox is an industry leader, and in many ways sets the course for the entire industry to follow in this regard. The issue with Dropbox is that they also have access to your encryption keys, which means they can easily decrypt and access your files, at their discretion. According to Drew Houston (Dropbox CEO), they need access to your files to offer features like search, to be able to better understand how you're using the service, ability to integrate with third-parties, and for law enforcement. Some of these "trade-offs" are mentioned by Mr. Houston himself in this interview when responding to criticism from Edward Snowden a few years ago: https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/04/dropboxs-drew-houston-responds-to-snowdens-privacy-criticism-its-a-trade-off/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/04/dropboxs-drew-houston-resp... More to the point, giving Dropbox (and their affiliates and trusted third-parties) permission to access to your files is a key provision of the Dropbox terms of service: Our Services also provide you with features like photo thumbnails, document previews, commenting, easy sorting, editing, sharing and searching. These and other features may require our systems to access, store and scan Your Stuff. You give us permission to do those things, and this permission extends to our affiliates and trusted third parties we work with. https://www.dropbox.com/terms https://www.dropbox.com/terms As Mr. Houston said in the article referenced above, if you want better encryption there are alternatives. Disclaimer: I work at Sync.com