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I don't like these categories but while we are playing this game: Aren't libertarians also globalists?

sremani 9y ago
The current global trade (non-software) relies on security provided by US Navy. Global Trade is not Free Trade! You need a security under-writer for it. I think Libertarians have a "blind-spot" there.
- davidivadavid 9y ago
  I'm not sure about that, unless you're conflating libertarians with anarcho-capitalists. Minarchist libertarians would actually consider that making free trade possible through military might is in the purview of the state.
  - sremani 9y ago
    You may be right, but what is libertarian idea of maritime trade in hostile world and how would a free market established in such circumstances. (I am not asking for full answer.. you can point me books or links)
    - WalterBright 9y ago
      You might want to check out what the US Navy did to the pirates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates#18th.E2.80.9319th_centuries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates#18th.E2.80.931...
  - CalChris 9y ago
    You are saying that the minarchist Night Watchman State will have 10 carrier strike groups? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
    - davidivadavid 9y ago
      If that's what's required to ensure the freedom of the Night Watchman State citizens, sure.
ftlio 9y ago
If you're a Libertarian and you believe spurring on global trade strengthens the right to property and disrupts governments from legislating moral imperatives, then you might be a globalist. Being neutral to OK with globalism is not the same thing as being a globalist.
- projectramo 9y ago
  I just think of a globalist as believing in free trade and immigration. Surely a position that a libertarian would support.
el3ctron 9y ago
yes, right wing libertarians are globalists, and anarchocapitalist.
shams93 9y ago
I would say yes, take away national governments and you empower multinationals to essentially turn the world into their corporate serfs, with the rule if law gone corporation's are free to impose their own rules without any vote by the people on the matter.

The current global trade (non-software) relies on security provided by US Navy. Global Trade is not Free Trade! You need a security under-writer for it. I think Libertarians have a "blind-spot" there.

davidivadavid 9y ago
I'm not sure about that, unless you're conflating libertarians with anarcho-capitalists. Minarchist libertarians would actually consider that making free trade possible through military might is in the purview of the state.
- sremani 9y ago
  You may be right, but what is libertarian idea of maritime trade in hostile world and how would a free market established in such circumstances. (I am not asking for full answer.. you can point me books or links)
  - WalterBright 9y ago
    You might want to check out what the US Navy did to the pirates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates#18th.E2.80.9319th_centuries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates#18th.E2.80.931...
- CalChris 9y ago
  You are saying that the minarchist Night Watchman State will have 10 carrier strike groups? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
  - davidivadavid 9y ago
    If that's what's required to ensure the freedom of the Night Watchman State citizens, sure.

ftlio 9y ago

If you're a Libertarian and you believe spurring on global trade strengthens the right to property and disrupts governments from legislating moral imperatives, then you might be a globalist. Being neutral to OK with globalism is not the same thing as being a globalist.

projectramo 9y ago
I just think of a globalist as believing in free trade and immigration. Surely a position that a libertarian would support.

el3ctron 9y ago

yes, right wing libertarians are globalists, and anarchocapitalist.

shams93 9y ago

I would say yes, take away national governments and you empower multinationals to essentially turn the world into their corporate serfs, with the rule if law gone corporation's are free to impose their own rules without any vote by the people on the matter.