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Crack vs powder sentencing isn't relevant. The violence was all on the crack side, which is what prompted the harsher sentences. And yes, Obama got a law pass

Crack vs powder sentencing isn't relevant. The violence was all on the crack side, which is what prompted the harsher sentences. And yes, Obama got a law passed based on a lie. That happens all the time. EDIT: Most people really don't care what you put into your body until you make them care, and that's what happened. You'd open up the paper and see another eight-year-old on the way to school got shot in the head because crack dealers were spraying bullets at each other again. That happens often enough and the public decides Something Must Be Done. Personally, I thought a better solution would be to teach the crack dealers how to shoot, but nobody liked my idea.

tptacek 9y ago
No, the violence was not "all on the crack side": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4533860/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4533860/
- gozur88 9y ago
  Oh, yes, I see they've referenced a study that admits the violence was greater for crack but not if you "controlled" out the relevant variables.
  - tptacek 9y ago
    Stupid statisticians with their stupid "controls". I'll take this opportunity to point out that, right or wrong (obviously: I think you're wrong), you've contradicted your comment rooting this subthread. You began by saying there was never strong feeling that black crack users should be imprisoned, and find yourself here arguing that imprisoned black crack users somehow deserved it.
    - gozur88 9y ago
      >Stupid statisticians with their stupid "controls". I don't have access to the actual study, but the abstract very much reads like a study that came to the conclusion the authors wanted. >You began by saying there was never strong feeling that black crack users should be imprisoned, and find yourself here arguing that imprisoned black crack users somehow deserved it. Eh... no, I never said that second part. You might want to read through the thread again.

tptacek 9y ago

No, the violence was not "all on the crack side": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4533860/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4533860/

gozur88 9y ago
Oh, yes, I see they've referenced a study that admits the violence was greater for crack but not if you "controlled" out the relevant variables.
- tptacek 9y ago
  Stupid statisticians with their stupid "controls". I'll take this opportunity to point out that, right or wrong (obviously: I think you're wrong), you've contradicted your comment rooting this subthread. You began by saying there was never strong feeling that black crack users should be imprisoned, and find yourself here arguing that imprisoned black crack users somehow deserved it.
  - gozur88 9y ago
    >Stupid statisticians with their stupid "controls". I don't have access to the actual study, but the abstract very much reads like a study that came to the conclusion the authors wanted. >You began by saying there was never strong feeling that black crack users should be imprisoned, and find yourself here arguing that imprisoned black crack users somehow deserved it. Eh... no, I never said that second part. You might want to read through the thread again.