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The fact that they allowed it in the first place is mind boggling, the people that run Kaspersky love Russia.

by FatAmericanDev 9y ago

neilsimp1 9y ago
Te people that run Kaspersky are Russia, as I understand it.
- rotrux 9y ago
  They're based in Russia which obviously says a lot without needing to go into more specifics. They still do good work though, they're one of the most respected disclosure-publishers in the world. I do wonder "why now?" though RE: banning them...Could be either posturing or some sort of recent intelligence (also I mean "recent" in the bureaucratic sense, so like...idk < 1 year?)
  - hprotagonist 9y ago
    when a really big horse leaves the barn, you have to close the barn door very firmly after it, i guess.
tryingagainbro 9y ago
the people that run Kaspersky love Russia. Love it or leave it, literally. Unless you like a Siberian prison. FSB walks in, point to a dozen laws you've broken and then ask, how are going to do this. And you've almost certainly broken the laws (it's nearly impossible to operate otherwise in such countries), and even if you didn't a judge will say you did.
marcoperaza 9y ago
Tech sovereignty is going to be one of the most important international issues of the next few decades. The US has mostly lucked out so far, being the home of the overwhelming majority of major tech firms. But China has very purposefully taken steps to secure and guarantee their technological sovereignty, and there is movement in Europe to do the same.
- cinquemb 9y ago
  I wonder where the technological sovereignty of the individual exists in the midst of this…
  - duncan_bayne 9y ago
    Right alongside all the other aspects of individual sovereignty that society has chosen to abrogate.
- wil421 9y ago
  China is blatantly ripping off the West in tech and non tech. Their rising middle class and population make it simple to copy and internally consume. Russia can do something similar because purposely segregate themselves.

The fact that they allowed it in the first place is mind boggling, the people that run Kaspersky love Russia.

neilsimp1 9y ago

Te people that run Kaspersky are Russia, as I understand it.

rotrux 9y ago
They're based in Russia which obviously says a lot without needing to go into more specifics. They still do good work though, they're one of the most respected disclosure-publishers in the world. I do wonder "why now?" though RE: banning them...Could be either posturing or some sort of recent intelligence (also I mean "recent" in the bureaucratic sense, so like...idk < 1 year?)
- hprotagonist 9y ago
  when a really big horse leaves the barn, you have to close the barn door very firmly after it, i guess.

tryingagainbro 9y ago

the people that run Kaspersky love Russia. Love it or leave it, literally. Unless you like a Siberian prison. FSB walks in, point to a dozen laws you've broken and then ask, how are going to do this. And you've almost certainly broken the laws (it's nearly impossible to operate otherwise in such countries), and even if you didn't a judge will say you did.

marcoperaza 9y ago

Tech sovereignty is going to be one of the most important international issues of the next few decades. The US has mostly lucked out so far, being the home of the overwhelming majority of major tech firms. But China has very purposefully taken steps to secure and guarantee their technological sovereignty, and there is movement in Europe to do the same.

cinquemb 9y ago
I wonder where the technological sovereignty of the individual exists in the midst of this…
- duncan_bayne 9y ago
  Right alongside all the other aspects of individual sovereignty that society has chosen to abrogate.
wil421 9y ago
China is blatantly ripping off the West in tech and non tech. Their rising middle class and population make it simple to copy and internally consume. Russia can do something similar because purposely segregate themselves.