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It actually is an electron app λ /Applications/Trello.app/Contents ◆ tree -L 2 . ├── Frameworks │ ├── Electron\ Framework.framework │ ├

It actually is an electron app λ /Applications/Trello.app/Contents ◆ tree -L 2 . ├── Frameworks │ ├── Electron\ Framework.framework │ ├── Trello\ Helper\ EH.app │ ├── Trello\ Helper\ NP.app │ └── Trello\ Helper.app ├── Info.plist Tried it. It's a bit laggy and seems not much different than the website itself.

CD1212 9y ago
Oh dear. That's a shame. I came here to post a comment asking if it was an Electron app. Hopefully Electron's overhead can become lighter in the future making useful applications like this less bloated.
kitotik 9y ago
Yeah, extremely disappointed in this. I’ve been a heavy Trello advocate since it launched, but the lack of real native clients puts a pretty low ceiling on it’s usefulness at scale. Atlassian has plenty of native developers on their team, not sure why they would take this route...
- bluedino 9y ago
  A true native client would be a lot of work. Maintain feature parity without adding new features. Identical UI including all the quirks. Is having a native app going to gain them any users? Maybe for user who can't have a browser installed, but they might not be able to have an internet connection either...
  - simonswords82 9y ago
    I get that, and I understand why they used Electron. But given Electron in this instance is basically a browser for Trello for all intents and purposes I don't see the point of it.
    - zdkl 9y ago
      I'm slowly shifting from your opinion to a general distrust of user configured browsers for providing a UI to "sensitive"(authed, billing) APIs.
  - tomc1985 9y ago
    "A true native client would be a lot of work." Electron has given a lot of devs that cop-out. I would rather Electron didn't exist... you'd have fewer desktop apps yes, but the fewer that are out there would be higher quality, and there'd be more work for people that don't buy into this web-must-be-everywhere mentality.
- drinchev 9y ago
  I think choosing a hybrid approach is the way to go here. The implementation with Electron, as most cases, sucks. I work with a startup and they have a hybrid app, which binary is 3.5 megabytes [1]. UI is JS/HTML/CSS and is almost the same bundle as the web version [2] Trello's app is 66MB [3] 1: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ninox-database/id901110441?mt=12 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ninox-database/id901110441?m... 2: https://app.ninoxdb.de https://app.ninoxdb.de 3: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trello/id1278508951?mt=12 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trello/id1278508951?mt=12
  - ptx 9y ago
    How does the "hybrid approach" differ from Electron and why is it so much smaller? Don't they still need to embed a full browser engine if the UI is all JS and HTML?
    - drinchev 9y ago
      macOS offers WKWebView [1], which essentially uses internal webkit ( safari ) for running the application. And since all libraries are already on your OS, the build is really small, as well as the memory footprint. 1: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/wkwebview https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/wkwebview
      - szastupov 9y ago
        Slack used to use WebKit but they migrated to Electron for various reasons explained in their blog post https://slack.engineering/building-hybrid-applications-with-electron-dc67686de5fb https://slack.engineering/building-hybrid-applications-with-...
  - kristianp 9y ago
    You have no Linux or Windows support though, right?
drewjoh 9y ago
Downloaded and tried it... main app and the helpers currently using 671MB of RAM. :(

CD1212 9y ago

Oh dear. That's a shame. I came here to post a comment asking if it was an Electron app. Hopefully Electron's overhead can become lighter in the future making useful applications like this less bloated.

kitotik 9y ago

Yeah, extremely disappointed in this. I’ve been a heavy Trello advocate since it launched, but the lack of real native clients puts a pretty low ceiling on it’s usefulness at scale. Atlassian has plenty of native developers on their team, not sure why they would take this route...

bluedino 9y ago
A true native client would be a lot of work. Maintain feature parity without adding new features. Identical UI including all the quirks. Is having a native app going to gain them any users? Maybe for user who can't have a browser installed, but they might not be able to have an internet connection either...
- simonswords82 9y ago
  I get that, and I understand why they used Electron. But given Electron in this instance is basically a browser for Trello for all intents and purposes I don't see the point of it.
  - zdkl 9y ago
    I'm slowly shifting from your opinion to a general distrust of user configured browsers for providing a UI to "sensitive"(authed, billing) APIs.
- tomc1985 9y ago
  "A true native client would be a lot of work." Electron has given a lot of devs that cop-out. I would rather Electron didn't exist... you'd have fewer desktop apps yes, but the fewer that are out there would be higher quality, and there'd be more work for people that don't buy into this web-must-be-everywhere mentality.
drinchev 9y ago
I think choosing a hybrid approach is the way to go here. The implementation with Electron, as most cases, sucks. I work with a startup and they have a hybrid app, which binary is 3.5 megabytes [1]. UI is JS/HTML/CSS and is almost the same bundle as the web version [2] Trello's app is 66MB [3] 1: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ninox-database/id901110441?mt=12 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ninox-database/id901110441?m... 2: https://app.ninoxdb.de https://app.ninoxdb.de 3: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trello/id1278508951?mt=12 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trello/id1278508951?mt=12
- ptx 9y ago
  How does the "hybrid approach" differ from Electron and why is it so much smaller? Don't they still need to embed a full browser engine if the UI is all JS and HTML?
  - drinchev 9y ago
    macOS offers WKWebView [1], which essentially uses internal webkit ( safari ) for running the application. And since all libraries are already on your OS, the build is really small, as well as the memory footprint. 1: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/wkwebview https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/wkwebview
    - szastupov 9y ago
      Slack used to use WebKit but they migrated to Electron for various reasons explained in their blog post https://slack.engineering/building-hybrid-applications-with-electron-dc67686de5fb https://slack.engineering/building-hybrid-applications-with-...
- kristianp 9y ago
  You have no Linux or Windows support though, right?

drewjoh 9y ago

Downloaded and tried it... main app and the helpers currently using 671MB of RAM. :(