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As a leftist I'm inclined to be pro-antitrust but Steve Bannon's interest has me reconsidering. Bannon is a powerful propagandist who uses deception and fraud.

by guelo 9y ago

As a leftist I'm inclined to be pro-antitrust but Steve Bannon's interest has me reconsidering. Bannon is a powerful propagandist who uses deception and fraud. Since the government has given up on all responsibility to police political campaigns Bannon rightly sees tech companies as some of the last power centers that can slow down the spread of misinformation.

mnglkhn2 9y ago
> Bannon is a powerful propagandist who uses deception and fraud. Care to put some more meat on this statement? Do you think Bannon forced Charlie Rose to interview him? Or that he forced which questions to be asked? Out of curiosity, which points from Bannon's recent 60 Minutes sit-down, in your view, where inappropriate? Otherwise, please allow me to say that your statement is too broad and lacks enough specificity to make sense.
- dsfyu404ed 9y ago
  >Do you think Bannon forced Charlie Rose to interview him Those two really went at it. Whenever the topic turned to the media Charlie's (conscious or otherwise) bias was so glaringly obvious. It was like watching a debate between the president of a police union and and a the director of an inner city drug treatment program or an oil company exec and a university professor who researches climate change. Neither side could comprehend that their biases reinforced by the people they surround themselves with throughout their careers causes them to greatly over-estimate the validity of their side of the issue. It was some damn good TV.
- s73ver_ 9y ago
  Bannon existed long before those interviews happened. He has a long history.
ShabbosGoy 9y ago
> Since the government has given up on all responsibility to police political campaigns I believe that's known as freedom of assembly. I'm not going to address some of your bizarre points involving your dislike of Steve Bannon.
bbctol 9y ago
Nah, Bannon's just a mixture of economic leftist and authoritarian nationalist that got pretty popular at the beginning of the last century, too. (It, uh, fell out of favor.) He wants to regulate tech companies because it would be good for the people, and he also wants to make sure that "the people" doesn't include too many non-whites. Don't dismiss his economic views just because his overall worldview is awful.
- mnglkhn2 9y ago
  I am very wiling to critically analize any racist and bigoted manifestation from the right. I hope you can back up some of the stuff you claim as facts. Can you point to a public statement where he states that the 'whites' need to be favored and that the rest need to take a back-seat? Please watch the 60 Minutes interview and you can see and hear for yourself that he argues clearly in favor of the working man, which definitely includes minorities. He clearly states that the black community has been hit hard by the illegal immigration, and being outbid in the job market.
  - guildwriter 9y ago
    Another good source for Steve Bannon's views comes somewhat ironically from Buzzfeed: https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.lrJxmWNQV#.famQybKvx https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-banno... In regards to your point about arguing in favor of the working man, here's an excerpt from a response about how to counter ethnic/racial tribalism: "I think in Spain it’s something like 50 or 60% of the youth under 30 are underemployed. And that means the decade of their twenties, which is where you have to learn a skill, where you have to learn a craft, where you really start to get comfortable in your profession, you’re taking that away from the entire generation. That’s only going to fuel tribalism, that’s only going to fuel [unintelligible]… That’s why to me, it’s incumbent upon freedom-loving people to make sure that we sort out these governments and make sure that we sort out particularly this crony capitalism so that the benefits become more of this entrepreneurial spirit and that can flow back to working-class and middle-class people. Because if not, we’re going to pay a huge price for this. You can already start to see it."

by guelo 9y ago

mnglkhn2 9y ago

> Bannon is a powerful propagandist who uses deception and fraud. Care to put some more meat on this statement? Do you think Bannon forced Charlie Rose to interview him? Or that he forced which questions to be asked? Out of curiosity, which points from Bannon's recent 60 Minutes sit-down, in your view, where inappropriate? Otherwise, please allow me to say that your statement is too broad and lacks enough specificity to make sense.

dsfyu404ed 9y ago
>Do you think Bannon forced Charlie Rose to interview him Those two really went at it. Whenever the topic turned to the media Charlie's (conscious or otherwise) bias was so glaringly obvious. It was like watching a debate between the president of a police union and and a the director of an inner city drug treatment program or an oil company exec and a university professor who researches climate change. Neither side could comprehend that their biases reinforced by the people they surround themselves with throughout their careers causes them to greatly over-estimate the validity of their side of the issue. It was some damn good TV.
s73ver_ 9y ago
Bannon existed long before those interviews happened. He has a long history.

ShabbosGoy 9y ago

> Since the government has given up on all responsibility to police political campaigns I believe that's known as freedom of assembly. I'm not going to address some of your bizarre points involving your dislike of Steve Bannon.

bbctol 9y ago

Nah, Bannon's just a mixture of economic leftist and authoritarian nationalist that got pretty popular at the beginning of the last century, too. (It, uh, fell out of favor.) He wants to regulate tech companies because it would be good for the people, and he also wants to make sure that "the people" doesn't include too many non-whites. Don't dismiss his economic views just because his overall worldview is awful.

mnglkhn2 9y ago
I am very wiling to critically analize any racist and bigoted manifestation from the right. I hope you can back up some of the stuff you claim as facts. Can you point to a public statement where he states that the 'whites' need to be favored and that the rest need to take a back-seat? Please watch the 60 Minutes interview and you can see and hear for yourself that he argues clearly in favor of the working man, which definitely includes minorities. He clearly states that the black community has been hit hard by the illegal immigration, and being outbid in the job market.
- guildwriter 9y ago
  Another good source for Steve Bannon's views comes somewhat ironically from Buzzfeed: https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-bannon-sees-the-entire-world?utm_term=.lrJxmWNQV#.famQybKvx https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder/this-is-how-steve-banno... In regards to your point about arguing in favor of the working man, here's an excerpt from a response about how to counter ethnic/racial tribalism: "I think in Spain it’s something like 50 or 60% of the youth under 30 are underemployed. And that means the decade of their twenties, which is where you have to learn a skill, where you have to learn a craft, where you really start to get comfortable in your profession, you’re taking that away from the entire generation. That’s only going to fuel tribalism, that’s only going to fuel [unintelligible]… That’s why to me, it’s incumbent upon freedom-loving people to make sure that we sort out these governments and make sure that we sort out particularly this crony capitalism so that the benefits become more of this entrepreneurial spirit and that can flow back to working-class and middle-class people. Because if not, we’re going to pay a huge price for this. You can already start to see it."