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1. "any" disaster is "plausible", some just more probable than not. 2. Looking forward to a disaster? Do you mean like a firefighter "looks forward to" fires o

1. "any" disaster is "plausible", some just more probable than not. 2. Looking forward to a disaster? Do you mean like a firefighter "looks forward to" fires or EMS "looks forward to" MVAs? While I can't speak for the 'preppers' you generalize, I can speak for fire fighters and EMS in that they feel that when TSHTF, they want to be there.... unless the 'preppers' you know are straight up lunatics. 3. "Jehoavh's witnesses 'mentality' has nothing to do with 'prepping'. They think (IIRC) that only a certain number of people will be 'saved', preparations be damned. So... what does that have to do with 'prepping'? Also, why do you inject 'no talk of violence'? as if all the survivors of a catastrophe will be peace-nicks? have you not read any of the studies put out by think tanks or books on previous governmental/environmental collapses? Violence is almost a certainty (in long-term, wide spread catastrophic anomalies). Why do you feel it isn't in your best interest to also prepare for that as you would food, water, etc... ?

FooHentai 9y ago
>3. "Jehoavh's witnesses 'mentality' has nothing to do with 'prepping'. They think (IIRC) that only a certain number of people will be 'saved' That's a little unfair. While one aspect of LDS preparedness might be their take on the rapture and how that'll play out, their teachings on preparedness are not solely aimed at that one scenario to the exclusion of other more likely/immediate scenarios. They also don't guard their preparedness teachings and learnings for exclusive use within the church, it's all quite openly shared to all without any reciprocation expectations. That's admirable, IMO. Also, as a concept the LDS take on rapture as a reason to prepare, is very similar to how 'zombie apocalypse' is used as an engaging concept to drive home very practical preparedness thinking, while at the same time being in itself patently absurd. Myths and legends of old served much the same purpose. All these things are fantastic tools if applied appropriately, and don't require being taken seriously/literally to be useful.
- slamdance 9y ago
  so are you talking about the Mormons (LDS) or Jehovah's Witnesses? they have two very different views on how the 'world ends' and what to do about it.
  - FooHentai 9y ago
    They are... somewhat different. How they frame the rapture, and whom might make the grade on such a junket - I wouldn't say they're fundamentally divergent on those topics because in LDS doctrine exaltation is obtainable by a potentially uncapped number of true believers that strive towards it, whereas for a witness there's a hard cap number on the souls to be saved circa ~150k. You make the team or it's goodnight. But how that grade is attained and what one should do to prepare.... both churches espouse the same basic tenets. JWs are just a bit more rigorous in terms of determining who made the team or not, and the alternative for those that don't seems entirely enjoyable so... If you're of a particular church you're probably acutely aware of the differences and that's a point I have no appetite to contest. How it factors into distinctions in preparedness doctrines emanating from each church? Not much I reckon - They're both putting out a good message and I'm, irrespective of personal beliefs, comfortable taking on-board the core messages of both churches. They are doing good works and that is to be lauded! tl;dr you can take or leave interpretations of the rapture; the idea of squaring away a few bags of rice and some tea lights has universal value to even the ungodly masses. Everyone wins, and there's nothing to be gained taking up a mantle of chief faith-questioner, I reckon :)
    - slamdance 9y ago
      I am neither, but I have family who is a JW. Their viewpoint on anything remotely close to 'prepping' is that it shows a complete 'lack of faith' in the assumption that god will provide & protect. Now, this person doesn't live in earthquake/tornado/disaster prone area, so I'm not sure if this is a universal belief for all JWs. I can't imagine they would reject the most basic safety precautions such as 3-day kits or something of that nature...

FooHentai 9y ago

>3. "Jehoavh's witnesses 'mentality' has nothing to do with 'prepping'. They think (IIRC) that only a certain number of people will be 'saved' That's a little unfair. While one aspect of LDS preparedness might be their take on the rapture and how that'll play out, their teachings on preparedness are not solely aimed at that one scenario to the exclusion of other more likely/immediate scenarios. They also don't guard their preparedness teachings and learnings for exclusive use within the church, it's all quite openly shared to all without any reciprocation expectations. That's admirable, IMO. Also, as a concept the LDS take on rapture as a reason to prepare, is very similar to how 'zombie apocalypse' is used as an engaging concept to drive home very practical preparedness thinking, while at the same time being in itself patently absurd. Myths and legends of old served much the same purpose. All these things are fantastic tools if applied appropriately, and don't require being taken seriously/literally to be useful.

slamdance 9y ago
so are you talking about the Mormons (LDS) or Jehovah's Witnesses? they have two very different views on how the 'world ends' and what to do about it.
- FooHentai 9y ago
  They are... somewhat different. How they frame the rapture, and whom might make the grade on such a junket - I wouldn't say they're fundamentally divergent on those topics because in LDS doctrine exaltation is obtainable by a potentially uncapped number of true believers that strive towards it, whereas for a witness there's a hard cap number on the souls to be saved circa ~150k. You make the team or it's goodnight. But how that grade is attained and what one should do to prepare.... both churches espouse the same basic tenets. JWs are just a bit more rigorous in terms of determining who made the team or not, and the alternative for those that don't seems entirely enjoyable so... If you're of a particular church you're probably acutely aware of the differences and that's a point I have no appetite to contest. How it factors into distinctions in preparedness doctrines emanating from each church? Not much I reckon - They're both putting out a good message and I'm, irrespective of personal beliefs, comfortable taking on-board the core messages of both churches. They are doing good works and that is to be lauded! tl;dr you can take or leave interpretations of the rapture; the idea of squaring away a few bags of rice and some tea lights has universal value to even the ungodly masses. Everyone wins, and there's nothing to be gained taking up a mantle of chief faith-questioner, I reckon :)
  - slamdance 9y ago
    I am neither, but I have family who is a JW. Their viewpoint on anything remotely close to 'prepping' is that it shows a complete 'lack of faith' in the assumption that god will provide & protect. Now, this person doesn't live in earthquake/tornado/disaster prone area, so I'm not sure if this is a universal belief for all JWs. I can't imagine they would reject the most basic safety precautions such as 3-day kits or something of that nature...