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There is a war on science from fundamentalists, sure, but it's not limited to theists. Was Damore a religious fanatic? He was engaging in a rational, scientifi

There is a war on science from fundamentalists, sure, but it's not limited to theists. Was Damore a religious fanatic? He was engaging in a rational, scientific discussion (merits of the attempt aside, that was the stated goal). What about anti-vaccine people? What about there-is-no-good-GMO people? I think it's inconsistent at best to think the biggest enemy of science is religious fanatics. In fact, the biggest enemy of science these days is bad science. Lack of replicated results, for example.

urahara 9y ago
All 'anti-vaccine' and 'damorish' types I met were undereducated in one way or another. Not necessarily in terms of university education, often it was some gap in basic self-education resulting in the lack of quality reasoning or soft skills or breadth of knowledge. On the side of an average person, there are many other enemies of science like absence of intellectual honesty, sincere pursuit of truth and ability to work towards it (often combined).
- humanrebar 9y ago
  > All 'anti-vaccine' and 'damorish' types I met were undereducated in one way or another. I wasn't saying Damore was right. I was saying people who failed to respond in rational, scientific ways were being basically anti-science.
macns 9y ago
> I think it's inconsistent at best to think the biggest enemy of science is religious fanatics. In fact, the biggest enemy of science these days is bad science. Lack of replicated results, for example. Good point on "enemies of science". Note though, the quote there seems to be a war on science by religious fanatics is different than science's biggest enemy is religious fanatics. The second one complements the grandparent's view on war between science and religion which implies that there is some sort of common ground between the two; there isn't any.

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There is a war on science from fundamentalists, sure, but it's not limited to theists. Was Damore a religious fanatic? He was engaging in a rational, scientifi

by humanrebar 9y ago

urahara 9y ago
All 'anti-vaccine' and 'damorish' types I met were undereducated in one way or another. Not necessarily in terms of university education, often it was some gap in basic self-education resulting in the lack of quality reasoning or soft skills or breadth of knowledge. On the side of an average person, there are many other enemies of science like absence of intellectual honesty, sincere pursuit of truth and ability to work towards it (often combined).
- humanrebar 9y ago
  > All 'anti-vaccine' and 'damorish' types I met were undereducated in one way or another. I wasn't saying Damore was right. I was saying people who failed to respond in rational, scientific ways were being basically anti-science.
macns 9y ago
> I think it's inconsistent at best to think the biggest enemy of science is religious fanatics. In fact, the biggest enemy of science these days is bad science. Lack of replicated results, for example. Good point on "enemies of science". Note though, the quote there seems to be a war on science by religious fanatics is different than science's biggest enemy is religious fanatics. The second one complements the grandparent's view on war between science and religion which implies that there is some sort of common ground between the two; there isn't any.