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So, is this an admission? Or a theoretical? Or only part of the story? Is the writer using a pseudonym?

pygy_ 9y ago
I agree this reads like fiction, and it would be idiotic to admit it. If real, the people he stole from may be even less ethical than he is (and they must have noticed the ETH were gone, and at what time). This could paint him as a murder target, a position I wouldn't want to be in...
- celticninja 9y ago
  except it is possibly a grey area, the contracts are written such that extracting the money is only possible if you fulfill the contract, if you find a loophole and fullfill the contract and take the money did you really steal it?
  - croon 9y ago
    It's unlikely that someone motivated enough to hire an assassin on darknet cares about the technical legality of the exploit. It's very easy to piss people off within the confines of a system's rules. The general advice is not to do so.
  - sgift 9y ago
    With the usual caveats (IANAL, this may vary per country/jurisdiction) laws and contracts are usually about intent, not pure semantics. And you'd probably have a hard time to argue that this way of 'fulfilling' the contract was the intended way.
    - celticninja 9y ago
      I understand that contracts are usually written this way but an ethereum smart contract is a different kettle of fish. It is written to be a program so if you can get the program to respond to your inputs then you have fulfilled the requirements of the smart contract as it was written. Of course it may be that it was poorly worded but that is an issue for the contract writer.
      - davidivadavid 9y ago
        Because whoever invented them called them "smart contracts" doesn't mean they're considered as such in the jurisdiction where people using the said "smart contract" are living. Matt Levine has written extensively about the subject.
- wruza 9y ago
  They must be very angry and powerful to do that, because the common criminal rule is that you pay all debts of the person you killed. Otherwise it would be too easy to take money from the debitor/thief at the right moment and then send someone bury him in the basement without any consequence.
TheLilHipster 9y ago
I have a hunch that this is a parody of the DAO token theft. Don't have the technical knowledge, nor do I care to put in the hours to figure it all out.
- mannykannot 9y ago
  It certainly seems to have elements of parody, though if it were about the DAO specifically, I would think he might have said something about hard forks.
benmmurphy 9y ago
he is claiming to be the multi-sig exploit hacker: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xff261a49c61861884d0509dac46ed67577a7d48cb73c2f51f149c0bf96b29660 https://etherscan.io/tx/0xff261a49c61861884d0509dac46ed67577... he is probably role playing because i doubt whoever did this would put themselves at risk by claiming they did it publicly

I agree this reads like fiction, and it would be idiotic to admit it. If real, the people he stole from may be even less ethical than he is (and they must have noticed the ETH were gone, and at what time). This could paint him as a murder target, a position I wouldn't want to be in...

celticninja 9y ago
except it is possibly a grey area, the contracts are written such that extracting the money is only possible if you fulfill the contract, if you find a loophole and fullfill the contract and take the money did you really steal it?
- croon 9y ago
  It's unlikely that someone motivated enough to hire an assassin on darknet cares about the technical legality of the exploit. It's very easy to piss people off within the confines of a system's rules. The general advice is not to do so.
- sgift 9y ago
  With the usual caveats (IANAL, this may vary per country/jurisdiction) laws and contracts are usually about intent, not pure semantics. And you'd probably have a hard time to argue that this way of 'fulfilling' the contract was the intended way.
  - celticninja 9y ago
    I understand that contracts are usually written this way but an ethereum smart contract is a different kettle of fish. It is written to be a program so if you can get the program to respond to your inputs then you have fulfilled the requirements of the smart contract as it was written. Of course it may be that it was poorly worded but that is an issue for the contract writer.
    - davidivadavid 9y ago
      Because whoever invented them called them "smart contracts" doesn't mean they're considered as such in the jurisdiction where people using the said "smart contract" are living. Matt Levine has written extensively about the subject.
wruza 9y ago
They must be very angry and powerful to do that, because the common criminal rule is that you pay all debts of the person you killed. Otherwise it would be too easy to take money from the debitor/thief at the right moment and then send someone bury him in the basement without any consequence.

TheLilHipster 9y ago

I have a hunch that this is a parody of the DAO token theft. Don't have the technical knowledge, nor do I care to put in the hours to figure it all out.

mannykannot 9y ago
It certainly seems to have elements of parody, though if it were about the DAO specifically, I would think he might have said something about hard forks.

benmmurphy 9y ago

he is claiming to be the multi-sig exploit hacker: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xff261a49c61861884d0509dac46ed67577a7d48cb73c2f51f149c0bf96b29660 https://etherscan.io/tx/0xff261a49c61861884d0509dac46ed67577... he is probably role playing because i doubt whoever did this would put themselves at risk by claiming they did it publicly