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> but I guess there are plenty of people in this world who want to impose their world view onto others. Not supporting the "no" voters at all here, but both si

> but I guess there are plenty of people in this world who want to impose their world view onto others. Not supporting the "no" voters at all here, but both sides are technically guilty of this. I guess for example if you follow a religion that is opposed to same sex marriage I imagine it would feel as if same sex marriage advocates were trying to impose their world views on you and vice-versa.

Oletros 9y ago
They are not forcing no voters to marry same sex persons
- synicalx 9y ago
  Again, let me preface this by saying none of these views are my own, I'm just trying to be sympathetic for both sides of the debate here so that we avoid creating echo chambers every time this topic gets mentioned. Although I think it's unlikely that any celebrants, or at least ones affiliated with various religions, will be forced to marry same sex couples, they're not the only people that are involved in a wedding. So even if celebrants are protected, will that same protection extend to photographers/caterers/musicians/venues etc? The main pain point at the moment as far as I can tell is this plebiscite, whilst it's asking a very necessary question, doesn't give any indication of what people are actually voting on. A "Yes" result could potentially hand a more progressive government a blank cheque in terms of their justification to legislate however they want.
cam_l 9y ago
This is such a common and contorted view of things, I feel it needs comment. 1. Imposing your 'view' on someone can mean to ask them to see your point of view or to force them to act in a certain way. These things are not equivalent.. 2. The only world view being imposed on the fringe-right is the one that says it is not ok to impose their views on others. You are not a bigot if you are intolerant of bigots.

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> but I guess there are plenty of people in this world who want to impose their world view onto others. Not supporting the "no" voters at all here, but both si

by synicalx 9y ago

Oletros 9y ago
They are not forcing no voters to marry same sex persons
- synicalx 9y ago
  Again, let me preface this by saying none of these views are my own, I'm just trying to be sympathetic for both sides of the debate here so that we avoid creating echo chambers every time this topic gets mentioned. Although I think it's unlikely that any celebrants, or at least ones affiliated with various religions, will be forced to marry same sex couples, they're not the only people that are involved in a wedding. So even if celebrants are protected, will that same protection extend to photographers/caterers/musicians/venues etc? The main pain point at the moment as far as I can tell is this plebiscite, whilst it's asking a very necessary question, doesn't give any indication of what people are actually voting on. A "Yes" result could potentially hand a more progressive government a blank cheque in terms of their justification to legislate however they want.
cam_l 9y ago
This is such a common and contorted view of things, I feel it needs comment. 1. Imposing your 'view' on someone can mean to ask them to see your point of view or to force them to act in a certain way. These things are not equivalent.. 2. The only world view being imposed on the fringe-right is the one that says it is not ok to impose their views on others. You are not a bigot if you are intolerant of bigots.