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Nah, I'm all for google doing this. Youtube is absolutely NOT the place to host these videos, as makes it very hard if not impossible to ferret out all the hi

Nah, I'm all for google doing this. Youtube is absolutely NOT the place to host these videos, as makes it very hard if not impossible to ferret out all the highly destructive hate speech that's occurring.. Obviously, there should be a place, similar in price and ease as YouTube to where she can host such things, but YouTube is not the place. Ideally the new system will be set up to weed through what makes sense and what doesn't.

KGIII 9y ago
I'm not sure this is the time or place, but what is it that you're calling hate speech and how is it 'highly destructive?' What prevents the user from selecting a different video and who is the arbiter of 'what makes sense and what doesn't?' I suppose those can be rhetorical questions, if you want. To be clear, I suspect I hold very extreme views on the concept of free speech, at least from your perspective. Lest you read too much into that, the speech I'm defending sometimes comes from people who would harm me simply by virtue of my not being white. In this case, the lady is a journalist. Her reporting included extremist videos. You're saying YouTube is not the place to share investigative journalism because it's highly destructive hate speech.
- simonh 9y ago
  Do you think that she should be able to post this content because she's a white westerner that you like, while brown Muslims you don't like who posted the same material should not? Youtube has rules about the content they are willing to host and she knowingly violated those rules. Who she is any why she did it shouldn't come into it.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
    > Youtube has rules about the content they are willing to host and she knowingly violated those rules. Who she is any why she did it shouldn't come into it. No, it shouldn't matter who she is. It matters that the rules are Wrong.
  - KGIII 9y ago
    Her race is immaterial. I'm not sure why you believe I'd care. If you read the thread, you'd know I'm not white. And no, I'm very much okay with the Muslim posts. In fact, I've watched many of them. The ISIS recruitment videos are well made and have pretty catchy songs.

KGIII 9y ago

I'm not sure this is the time or place, but what is it that you're calling hate speech and how is it 'highly destructive?' What prevents the user from selecting a different video and who is the arbiter of 'what makes sense and what doesn't?' I suppose those can be rhetorical questions, if you want. To be clear, I suspect I hold very extreme views on the concept of free speech, at least from your perspective. Lest you read too much into that, the speech I'm defending sometimes comes from people who would harm me simply by virtue of my not being white. In this case, the lady is a journalist. Her reporting included extremist videos. You're saying YouTube is not the place to share investigative journalism because it's highly destructive hate speech.

simonh 9y ago
Do you think that she should be able to post this content because she's a white westerner that you like, while brown Muslims you don't like who posted the same material should not? Youtube has rules about the content they are willing to host and she knowingly violated those rules. Who she is any why she did it shouldn't come into it.
- yjftsjthsd-h 9y ago
  > Youtube has rules about the content they are willing to host and she knowingly violated those rules. Who she is any why she did it shouldn't come into it. No, it shouldn't matter who she is. It matters that the rules are Wrong.
- KGIII 9y ago
  Her race is immaterial. I'm not sure why you believe I'd care. If you read the thread, you'd know I'm not white. And no, I'm very much okay with the Muslim posts. In fact, I've watched many of them. The ISIS recruitment videos are well made and have pretty catchy songs.