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Terabyte drives are very cheap. Since it's borderline stupid, to simply upload this volume of work to some third party service without backup, I have no sympath

by jack9 9y ago

Terabyte drives are very cheap. Since it's borderline stupid, to simply upload this volume of work to some third party service without backup, I have no sympathy or technical concern. This being an illustration of Google's terrible "progressively tyrannical" track record, the article is badly titled. More like Google the Oppressor of Truth. Good Luck to Alexa.

vickyvicky 9y ago
>"progressively tyrannical" Google was much worse back in the years. It's just that people are beginning to notice it more. Back in those days, for my school project I created an app that had to recognize the hollywood celebrity based on the drawing. Google shut down my android account and then everything else in few weeks citing "copyright and impersonation". Worse, it shut down my google apps for business account 7 years later because "all related accounts will be closed". Other people faced the same wrath : https://www.androidpit.com/forum/617883/google-suspend-my-account-yesterday https://www.androidpit.com/forum/617883/google-suspend-my-ac... It was a business account and everything including drive etc was gone. The appeal form has automated responses and there is no number to call.
deathanatos 9y ago
Ideally, I'd like to back up my data too. That's where it becomes much harder: I need a second location. (In case my house catches fire, or floods in a hurricane, etc.) AWS and GCE both provide raw disk space, and certainly, an encrypted backup could be uploaded to them. I would like to be able to put a cap on what I spend on service, in case something goes wrong with the system, which AFAIK, neither GCE/AWS provide, unfortunately. I would also like it to be remotely accessible, which a simple terabyte drive doesn't get directly. Now, most of the above (creating a backup, encrypting it, shipping it out to AWS/GCE, securely accessing a drive remotely) are all possible, but none are easy, and certainly not yet at the level of "my mother/father can do it". I try very hard to maintain a private "cloud", and I find it fairly difficult.
- jack9 9y ago
  Video originals, soundclips, text, edited versions, become a tangled pipeline without experience (in the form of seeing it work in a large project context). I backup my multiple TB of data on Dropbox, some on Github (the code and production assets are committed to it), and external drives at least once a month. I think people have a tough time determining what's important (obviously) and are bad at organizing large amounts of data, conceptually more than technically. That being said, if you are going to generate a lot of data worth anything, even your publishing platform gives you an idea to how to structure it.
- jdietrich 9y ago
  Redundant cloud storage is made trivially easy by IFTTT. In just a few clicks, you can have your Google Drive uploads automatically replicated to half a dozen other cloud storage services and several brands of NAS. It can also back up your Gmail inbox, your Google Contacts and dozens of other cloud services. https://ifttt.com https://ifttt.com
  - thunderrabbit 9y ago
    Sounds awesome! Can you link to such an example on ifttt?
  - jiggunjer 9y ago
    Nice ad. Not the best option for people who are trying to minimize their reliance on 3rd parties though, since you are now giving a single entity access to all your online data. Also, their 'recipes' are rather limited in terms of triggers and available services.
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  Personally, I have a couple synced drives at home to tolerate hardware failure, and an additional storage setup at a family member's house, which syncs directly over the Internet, to cover incidents that affect my home. Roughly, I have my important data on five drives across two physical locations. And no data is stored in places I lack physical access to.
- 9y ago
jjawssd 9y ago
Young generations that grew up with cloud storage for everything don't remember what it was like to hoard data. Therefore, younger generations people are at the most risk of having their history destroyed at the whim of Google - a company closely affiliated with the US State Department - or any other service provider for that matter.

by jack9 9y ago

vickyvicky 9y ago

>"progressively tyrannical" Google was much worse back in the years. It's just that people are beginning to notice it more. Back in those days, for my school project I created an app that had to recognize the hollywood celebrity based on the drawing. Google shut down my android account and then everything else in few weeks citing "copyright and impersonation". Worse, it shut down my google apps for business account 7 years later because "all related accounts will be closed". Other people faced the same wrath : https://www.androidpit.com/forum/617883/google-suspend-my-account-yesterday https://www.androidpit.com/forum/617883/google-suspend-my-ac... It was a business account and everything including drive etc was gone. The appeal form has automated responses and there is no number to call.

deathanatos 9y ago

Ideally, I'd like to back up my data too. That's where it becomes much harder: I need a second location. (In case my house catches fire, or floods in a hurricane, etc.) AWS and GCE both provide raw disk space, and certainly, an encrypted backup could be uploaded to them. I would like to be able to put a cap on what I spend on service, in case something goes wrong with the system, which AFAIK, neither GCE/AWS provide, unfortunately. I would also like it to be remotely accessible, which a simple terabyte drive doesn't get directly. Now, most of the above (creating a backup, encrypting it, shipping it out to AWS/GCE, securely accessing a drive remotely) are all possible, but none are easy, and certainly not yet at the level of "my mother/father can do it". I try very hard to maintain a private "cloud", and I find it fairly difficult.

jack9 9y ago
Video originals, soundclips, text, edited versions, become a tangled pipeline without experience (in the form of seeing it work in a large project context). I backup my multiple TB of data on Dropbox, some on Github (the code and production assets are committed to it), and external drives at least once a month. I think people have a tough time determining what's important (obviously) and are bad at organizing large amounts of data, conceptually more than technically. That being said, if you are going to generate a lot of data worth anything, even your publishing platform gives you an idea to how to structure it.
jdietrich 9y ago
Redundant cloud storage is made trivially easy by IFTTT. In just a few clicks, you can have your Google Drive uploads automatically replicated to half a dozen other cloud storage services and several brands of NAS. It can also back up your Gmail inbox, your Google Contacts and dozens of other cloud services. https://ifttt.com https://ifttt.com
- thunderrabbit 9y ago
  Sounds awesome! Can you link to such an example on ifttt?
- jiggunjer 9y ago
  Nice ad. Not the best option for people who are trying to minimize their reliance on 3rd parties though, since you are now giving a single entity access to all your online data. Also, their 'recipes' are rather limited in terms of triggers and available services.
ocdtrekkie 9y ago
Personally, I have a couple synced drives at home to tolerate hardware failure, and an additional storage setup at a family member's house, which syncs directly over the Internet, to cover incidents that affect my home. Roughly, I have my important data on five drives across two physical locations. And no data is stored in places I lack physical access to.
9y ago

jjawssd 9y ago

Young generations that grew up with cloud storage for everything don't remember what it was like to hoard data. Therefore, younger generations people are at the most risk of having their history destroyed at the whim of Google - a company closely affiliated with the US State Department - or any other service provider for that matter.