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Never? If Jason Bourne is after you that's probably true. If you're worried about border security, that's maybe true. But for most people, the lock on their p
by sxates 9y ago
Never?
If Jason Bourne is after you that's probably true. If you're worried about border security, that's maybe true.
But for most people, the lock on their phone isn't protecting them from the government, it's protecting them from nosy relatives, a pick pocket, or the guy that finds the phone you left at the bar, or their 4 year old. None of these 'attackers' will ever be sophisticated enough to defeat the biometric protections on an iPhone.
I think people need to adjust their security policies to reflect the actual security threats they're likely to face, and for most people Touch ID or FaceID are more than adequate.
- ge96 9y agoI like how easy it is to unlock my phone with my fingerprint (back-facing design instead of iphone front-facing design), I'd say the same about fingerprints(don't use it) but your fingerprints are probably all over everything that you own.
- kevin_thibedeau 9y agoThe US border extends 100 miles inland around the entire perimeter. 2/3rds of the population are subject to federal overreach anywhere in that zone.
- quarkral 9y ago"sophisticated" here could be as simple as buying a mass-produced 3d filter sized for the dual lens on the iPhone, installing a companion computer program, running it, uploading a video, and then pointing the phone at the screen. If I were your nosy relative, that certainly wouldn't stop me. As with any security break, the first research prototypes may sound sophisticated, but they might not be that far off from practical mass-production.
- mattnewton 9y agoI mean, cool, but I'm more worried about someone shoulder surfing with a camera or in person when I type my passcode in
- wil421 9y agoI could just knock you out, get you drunk or drug you and just scan your face. Ive seen people get into a drunk passed out persons phone by picking up thier finger and putting it onto the sensor.
- dbg31415 9y ago> I think people need to adjust their security policies to reflect the actual security threats they're likely to face, and for most people Touch ID or FaceID are more than adequate. Sounds like you work for Equifax. (= Look, real security threats are out there -- even if you don't want to acknowledge them. Phones have too much sensitive data, photos, bank accounts -- now the ability to pay via text message. It's just short-sighted to think the only threats people should be worried about are their kids or neighbours.
- sxates 9y agoSure, but has there been a single case of someone's bank account being robbed because they lost their phone, and someone went through the effort to collect and impersonate their fingerprint to unlock it? You could be shot at random too, but I'm betting you didn't wear a bullet proof vest today, unless you have cause to think someone is determined to harm you. And don't I wish that my credit info requires a fingerprint to access. That'd be a big step up!
- zaroth 9y agoCertainly there have been people with devices that had poor security that were remotely accessed and then robbed. TeamViewer accounts with weak passwords were being hacked en masse with scripts trying to visit paypal.con and transfering funds. If you had passwords auto-saved in your browser they could get in to make the transfer. FaceID is better than 99.9% of what humans actually do in the real world.
- kurthr 9y agoI agree that convenience is the real test of each of these technologies (along with "good enough" security) that lets the majority of people to have a good experience. The biggest concerns for the iPhone (or others) then are things like viewing angle, sunlight, etc... Also, if I were an identical twin (only 0.3% of the population) I would be a bit unhappy that my brother/sister could post anything they wanted on my IG/FB/SN.
- coldcode 9y agoI don't think you can have a identical twin that is a different sex.
- kurthr 9y agoI don't have an identical twin, but I also don't know which hypothetical genetic sex so... male or female, depends on you.
- remarkEon 9y agoWhat about Halloween when everyone is in costume? Will I be able to access my phone without taking off a mask?
- cstrat 9y agoThe big thing about TouchID and FaceID is that they are great ways of enforcing a higher level of security than nothing... Prior to these technologies many people I knew did not bother having PINs or were using 1234 because remembering a complex PIN or having to type in something long is too laborious.
- remarkEon 9y agoBingo. Numerous times I've had to explain to my parents why using their wedding anniversary for everything is a really bad idea. For folks like us, yeah, we can see issues. But for my parents biometrics is the best worst option.
- roenxi 9y agoThey are even less convenient for lending a phone to a friend or relative though. These features are change; not a straight improvement. They have different pros and cons compared to a passcode.
- ghaff 9y agoYou can still use a password though with Touch ID.