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This is a step in the right direction, but why hand control to the newsroom as opposed to the user?
by unescape 9y ago
This is a step in the right direction, but why hand control to the newsroom as opposed to the user?
- s73ver_ 9y agoIt is the newsroom's site.
- unescape 9y agoThen this is evidence that comments should not be on the site. It's not the place of the newsroom to control discussion.
- s73ver_ 9y agoThen don't comment on their site? I mean if you're looking for discussion online, there are thousands of places to go. But this is specifically about the comment sections they provide. It seems entirely reasonable that a room they provide should be subject to their rules, and one violating those rules should be shown the door.
- unescape 9y agoMy observation is that Mozilla Talk does nothing to advance the decentralized Web, so why is it a good thing?
- s73ver_ 9y agoJust because something doesn't advance your pet cause doesn't mean it's not good. The decentralized web does nothing to advance universal health care, so why is it a good thing?
- unescape 9y agoI'm just going to point out that Mozilla and the NSF recently offered $2M for ideas to decentralize the web. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/06/21/2-million-prize-decentralize-web-apply-today/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/06/21/2-million-prize-dec...
- TwelveNights 9y agoThey never said that Talk was aimed at moving that goal further along, however. They're trying to use it instead to allow better curation tools to make comments manageable.
- unescape 9y agoIt seems that their goal is to help sites move away from 3rd-party comment management services such as Facebook and Disqus. Based on this discussion, I think federated (not site-owned) comments are the way to go long-term. Maybe Talk can eventually be adapted to help with decentralized comment moderation.
- TwelveNights 9y agoThe thing about federated comment feeds is that these news outlets will not be incentivized to embed them directly to their website, as they lose control of the content. This problem will damage the exposure that a federated system would receive.
- unescape 9y agoBetter than having news outlets embed them, is having browsers support mixing federated comments with the original content. How about it, Mozilla, Brave, and Chromium? Afraid to bite the hand that feeds you?
- TwelveNights 9y agoOkay, I'll give it to you that your idea would be really damn interesting. Still, there would have to be some semblance of moderation, and as to who that responsibility will be placed on is a hard question.