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>Also, non-white Americans are imprisoned at much higher rates than white-skinned ones, so that would seem to corroborate my number closely. That is probably a

>Also, non-white Americans are imprisoned at much higher rates than white-skinned ones, so that would seem to corroborate my number closely. That is probably a factor, but there are other factors too such as the demographic shift currently occurring in the US due to higher non-white birth rates and thus a higher percentage of the non-white population still being younger than 16 and thus falling out of the "civilian noninstitutional population". >That is a certainty. Sorry, but "That is a certainty" doesn't cut it for me. That's merely a claim or thesis, not a statement of fact, not necessarily wrong but not necessarily true or the whole picture either. Same for your other claims. What I find interesting is you instantly leaping to "discrimination/oppressions explains it all". While it is absolutely necessary to look for and fight against discrimination, making bold claims without supporting evidence and suggesting those are facts, while neglecting to look for other potential factors, is not really helpful in my humble opinion (it is a little as to raising awareness and starting conversations in the first place).

forapurpose 9y ago
> "That is a certainty" doesn't cut it for me. That's merely a claim or thesis, not a statement of fact, not necessarily wrong but not necessarily true or the whole picture either. We don't need to provide evidence or the complete picture for everything. If I say 'That is a certainty' that London has a larger population than Dover, it's not necessary to provide a citation or a detailed picture. The existence of discrimination in the areas I mentioned easily falls into that category. I didn't say it was the whole picture; that would require writing books, not HN comments. > Same for your other claims. Almost all my other statements were reasoning about data. > What I find interesting is you instantly leaping to "discrimination/oppressions explains it all". I didn't say that and I didn't leap to my conclusions; I'm not sure how you imagine to know what my thinking process was or how long it took. I saw data, shared it, and reasoned a bit about the evidence.

forapurpose 9y ago

> "That is a certainty" doesn't cut it for me. That's merely a claim or thesis, not a statement of fact, not necessarily wrong but not necessarily true or the whole picture either. We don't need to provide evidence or the complete picture for everything. If I say 'That is a certainty' that London has a larger population than Dover, it's not necessary to provide a citation or a detailed picture. The existence of discrimination in the areas I mentioned easily falls into that category. I didn't say it was the whole picture; that would require writing books, not HN comments. > Same for your other claims. Almost all my other statements were reasoning about data. > What I find interesting is you instantly leaping to "discrimination/oppressions explains it all". I didn't say that and I didn't leap to my conclusions; I'm not sure how you imagine to know what my thinking process was or how long it took. I saw data, shared it, and reasoned a bit about the evidence.