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Sorry but not only could I not disagree more but you're demonstrably incorrect. Anyone who says a text editor "can accomplish the same things [as an IDE]" just

by cletus 9y ago

Sorry but not only could I not disagree more but you're demonstrably incorrect. Anyone who says a text editor "can accomplish the same things [as an IDE]" just doesn't know how to use an IDE. The text editor vs IDE difference is the difference between using regexes and a lexer/parser to read, analyze and manipulate source code. The amount of effort I see people put into configuring their .vimrc or .emacs files to get a subset of what you get out of the box with a decent (ie Jetbrains) IDE that at the end of the day just dosn't work as well is... staggering. I mean text editors have their place and most notably vim/emacs work over an SSH connection. That's fine. But where possible give me IntelliJ or CLion every time.

wz1000 9y ago
This uses the language server protocol, so the work of "understanding" the code is delegated to another tool, which usually uses a compiler(or equivalent) to perform semantic analysis. So no regex hacks etc. if you use a sane language server.
yodsanklai 9y ago
You're comparing editors like vim with IDEs. I'd say "modern" text editors such as Atom, VSCode or Sublime are between these two extremes. They provide a lot of "higher-level" features while being lightweight and programming-language neutral.
farresito 9y ago
Does clion support makefiles?
jamescostian 9y ago
If you want to argue that IDEs come with more features than text editors "out of the box", I'll happily 100% agree. But I've spent many hours configuring Sublime, Jetbrains IDEs (CLion, WebStorm, PHPStorm, and PyCharm) in particular, and also maybe a grand total of an hour configuring Visual Studio. Yes, I install more plugins in Sublime to get the same functionality as an IDE. No, that's not what my original comment was about. If you honestly think there's something an IDE can do that can't be done in a text editor with plugins, then just consider this: an IDE at its core is a text editor, and all the rest is just "plugins"

by cletus 9y ago

wz1000 9y ago

This uses the language server protocol, so the work of "understanding" the code is delegated to another tool, which usually uses a compiler(or equivalent) to perform semantic analysis. So no regex hacks etc. if you use a sane language server.

yodsanklai 9y ago

You're comparing editors like vim with IDEs. I'd say "modern" text editors such as Atom, VSCode or Sublime are between these two extremes. They provide a lot of "higher-level" features while being lightweight and programming-language neutral.

farresito 9y ago

Does clion support makefiles?

jamescostian 9y ago

If you want to argue that IDEs come with more features than text editors "out of the box", I'll happily 100% agree. But I've spent many hours configuring Sublime, Jetbrains IDEs (CLion, WebStorm, PHPStorm, and PyCharm) in particular, and also maybe a grand total of an hour configuring Visual Studio. Yes, I install more plugins in Sublime to get the same functionality as an IDE. No, that's not what my original comment was about. If you honestly think there's something an IDE can do that can't be done in a text editor with plugins, then just consider this: an IDE at its core is a text editor, and all the rest is just "plugins"