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FaceID shows the difference between Apple and other smartphone manufacturers. Apple doesn't release features until they are absolutely sure they can engineer th

FaceID shows the difference between Apple and other smartphone manufacturers. Apple doesn't release features until they are absolutely sure they can engineer them to work perfectly.

raesene9 9y ago
How do you know it'll work perfectly? No-one actually has one of these to test it yet.
- danijelb 9y ago
  Of course I don't. But the presentation gives enough information to be able to assume it is secure. Some other manufacturers' solutions can be tricked with photos. Since Apple mentioned dot projector, you can assume they are tracking the 3D model of your face which by itself should be much more secure. And it works with Apple Pay, the banks wouldn't allow it if it wasn't equivalent to Touch ID.
  - raesene9 9y ago
    So windows Hello, which also uses 3D models, has been available for years. As to banks, I'm fairly sure (although I have no inside knowledge) that the banks won't have been allowed to review this technology in advance of the release, so they have no real assurance here. You can of course assume it's secure and as usuable as TouchID, but I'm guessing the devil will be in the detail on this one.
bspn 9y ago
Lol, just as it fails in the live onstage demo ...
- theshrike79 9y ago
  It didn't fail, the phone had rebooted, forcing passcode entry.
  - lagadu 9y ago
    No, that was the second attempt at unlocking. He even mentioned switching to passcode mode.
chrisked 9y ago
it just didn't work twice live on stage.
NicoJuicy 9y ago
And it failed in the demo...
- danijelb 9y ago
  Well, the beauty of presentations... Touch ID also fails sometimes. The important thing is that your finger can't unlock my phone.
- theshrike79 9y ago
  It didn't fail, the phone had rebooted, forcing passcode entry.
jordache 9y ago
oh like the iphone 4 antenna?
aluhut 9y ago
Like TouchID? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM8b8d8kSNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM8b8d8kSNQ

FaceID shows the difference between Apple and other smartphone manufacturers. Apple doesn't release features until they are absolutely sure they can engineer them to work perfectly.

raesene9 9y ago

How do you know it'll work perfectly? No-one actually has one of these to test it yet.

danijelb 9y ago
Of course I don't. But the presentation gives enough information to be able to assume it is secure. Some other manufacturers' solutions can be tricked with photos. Since Apple mentioned dot projector, you can assume they are tracking the 3D model of your face which by itself should be much more secure. And it works with Apple Pay, the banks wouldn't allow it if it wasn't equivalent to Touch ID.
- raesene9 9y ago
  So windows Hello, which also uses 3D models, has been available for years. As to banks, I'm fairly sure (although I have no inside knowledge) that the banks won't have been allowed to review this technology in advance of the release, so they have no real assurance here. You can of course assume it's secure and as usuable as TouchID, but I'm guessing the devil will be in the detail on this one.

bspn 9y ago

Lol, just as it fails in the live onstage demo ...

theshrike79 9y ago
It didn't fail, the phone had rebooted, forcing passcode entry.
- lagadu 9y ago
  No, that was the second attempt at unlocking. He even mentioned switching to passcode mode.

chrisked 9y ago

it just didn't work twice live on stage.

NicoJuicy 9y ago

And it failed in the demo...

danijelb 9y ago
Well, the beauty of presentations... Touch ID also fails sometimes. The important thing is that your finger can't unlock my phone.
theshrike79 9y ago
It didn't fail, the phone had rebooted, forcing passcode entry.

jordache 9y ago

oh like the iphone 4 antenna?

aluhut 9y ago

Like TouchID? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM8b8d8kSNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM8b8d8kSNQ