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Apple Watch 3
- jbob2000 9y agoA few more iterations of the Apple Watch and we might be in a position to ditch smartphones entirely. Instead of tablets being the ugly middle child, maybe they will become the new smartphones, with people favouring the large screen for intense work, and using the Watch for messaging and music.
- arcanus 9y agoParticularly if NLP (and AI assistants) finally start to work well. There is very little one does on phone that could not be performed with voice.
- moonbug22 9y agoExcept for communicating discreetly.
- ben_jones 9y agoI don't anticipate high schools being filled with two thousand children consuming instagram photos on their wrist. I don't anticipate college bars being filled with people cocking their wrists to the side taping intently onto a watch. And I don't anticipate my train commute into the city filled with people staring into the even smaller form factor of this device as they consume video and email...
- JumpCrisscross 9y agoI don't either. Just as with the shift from desktops to laptops to mobile, what and how we consume will shift.
- blawson 9y agoSounds like you are anticipating a better world! For commuters you have tablets or laptops still.
- spurcell93 9y agoI love that idea. In the same way that few people listen to CDs anymore, but the vinyl industry is growing again. Streaming fills the quick-and-easy use case, vinyl fills the immersive-listening use case. I think that could be a viable option for a lot of people (not all people - I can't imagine on the go emails and messaging on a watch) and not for a few years. If and when Siri becomes great, then the iPhone could become obsolete for many people. In an ideal world, this would stop people from inhabiting the purgatory that is currently phone ownership. You're not going to browse reddit on your watch in the elevator - maybe you'll make small talk and save the reddit for your own toilet. In an ideal world.
- majormajor 9y agoTablets don't fit well in pockets, so I'm never going to carry one all the time. And watches don't have a big enough screen to be my primary device since neither messaging nor music is my primary phone use (reading books, news, and websites is).
- jbob2000 9y agoBut isn't reading much better on a larger screen? If all you do is reading, maybe you'll find yourself with an e-reader in a few years? Or a smaller tablet (iPad mini?)
- vorpalhex 9y agoI'd love a world where the brains are a wrist watch form factor, and phones/tablets/laptops are just better screens and keyboards (ie dumb interfaces) which connect to said watch. Let me scale up to the form factor I need, but keep my encrypted and personal hardware, data and connection on my person at all times in a waterproof form factor.
- sinatra 9y agoI have thought about buying an Apple Watch multiple times. But, then, I see comments from a lot of Apple Watch users who say that they completely stop using it after few months. For many of them, the utility is not strong enough. Have things improved in that regard? What do you Apple Watch users think about it now?
- philliphaydon 9y agoI'm in the same boat. I want one... but I just can't bring myself to get one because of what people I know have said.
- wutwutwutwut 9y agoI want one but I also suspect I would stop using it quickly. I'm not sure what to actually use it for...
- saagarjha 9y agoFitness tracking and notifications on your wrist. If that sounds like something you'd want I'd recommend you get one.
- austenallred 9y agoIt's a nice to have for me. But with cellular that completely changes. Now my phone will be the optional unit, and my watch a must.
- toomuchtodo 9y agoI had never considered an Apple Watch. I believed it to be too costly for what it offered. The selling point today was their heart study with Stanford and that the watch will detect irregular heartbeats. I'm genetically predisposed to atrial fibrillation [1] (TL;DR Abnormal heart rhythm), and having a watch that can alert me that my heart rhythm is deviating from a normal rhythm is cheap insurance against a poor cardiac outcome. For me, its medical telemetry first, and a phone second. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrial_fibrillation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrial_fibrillation
- 3pt14159 9y agoUnderwater + cellular is pretty impressive. The extra sensors + medical algos are what is really going to win in the long run though. Once doctors start prescribing Apple Watches things will really start to takeoff.
- ch4s3 9y ago>Once doctors start prescribing Apple Watches I wouldn't hold my breath on that, for a few reasons: - The sensors likely aren't good enough yet - To be prescribed and paid for by insurance cos and medicare, it would need to be an FDA approved device, an onerous and years(maybe decade) long process that I doubt apple would want to go through. You can't have an FDA approved device that you constantly update for example - There is no evidence that this kind constant vital stats recording is medically useful. You'd think it would be, but the literature suggests otherwise So, there are a ton of hurdles for medical use. They would need to establish the utility with a years long peer reviewed study, get FDA approval, convince payers to cover it, convince doctors to prescribe it, and brand it as a health device. I'm not convinced that this is feasible.
- robotresearcher 9y agoDoctors can recommend things without prescribing them. No need for approvals in that case.
- ch4s3 9y agoSure, they can... but they generally will not if the evidence doesn't back it up, and it isn't covered, and it wasn't taught in med school when they went through.
- tdb7893 9y agoI interned at a company that did some prosthetics and other medical devices. They were designed expressly for medical applications and they still were a pain to get approved. Sensors have to be really accurate if a doctor is going to use them clinically and most smartwatches aren't close yet in my experience
- izacus 9y agoSeems like the lack of SIM also means no choice of carrier - the slide only showed 9 or 10 carriers in just a handful of countries where that will work.
- andars 9y agoThe techcrunch article says there is a SIM card.
- DonaldPShimoda 9y agoIt's not a real SIM card. They talked about it in the keynote; it's a built-in electronic SIM chip or something.
- jlebar 9y agoAn "electronic SIM card inside". I don't think this means there's a physical SIM. Dunno how that's going to affect compatibility with carriers, which is OP's question.
- asn0 9y agoIs this the Apple SIM[1] that lets the iPad choose a carrier as a configuration setting? 1. https://www.apple.com/ipad/apple-sim/ https://www.apple.com/ipad/apple-sim/
- askafriend 9y agoI think this product has the potential to reduce the distracting habits that we have with our phones while we're out and about while still keeping us connected. You can finally leave your phone at home in more scenarios.
- asn0 9y agoI tried an Apple Watch for a few weeks thinking that it would be less of a distraction than the phone in my pocket. Found that (1) it's much more of a distraction because it's so much more accessible and is more likely to be buzzing regularly. There's a mental and physical barrier to pulling my phone out of my pocket that makes it easier to disconnect; there's almost no barrier with the Apple Watch, it takes much more mental effort to limit its disruptiveness. (2) someone looking at their watch frequently (more than about every 15 minutes) is often interpreted socially as a sign that the conversation is boring or going too long or they are otherwise anxious about the time. I generally found that looking at the Apple Watch was more disruptive socially than pulling out my phone (partly due to #1)
- askafriend 9y ago(1) I've turned off all notifications except the ones that absolutely need to come through (SMS, Calls, Calendar Events etc). You need to have a different notification strategy for your Watch vs. your Phone. (2) You can't look at your Watch for that long comfortably. It's good for glances and that's what I end up doing most - glancing. I think this is far better than getting sucked into your phone. You get the information you need quickly and get out quickly. That's not the case with my phone.
- kristofferR 9y ago2 - I agree. That's why it's so damn infuriating that Apple won't let you remove the Photos app from the Watch without also removing it from your iPhone (where it's actually useful)!
- ondeodiff 9y agoNot needing to pair with a phone is huge.
- ben174 9y agoApple Watch is one of the very few v1 products I just never felt the need to upgrade. I tend to always be on the latest generation of everything, but the watch just works fine in it's launch-day v1 state. v2 was underwhelming, and as someone who always has his phone on him, v3 doesn't do much for me. This isn't a complaint in the least, good to see Apple making products that don't feel old 2.5 years later.
- djrogers 9y agoThe jump from the v1 watch to the Series 2 isn't a huge win until you use it - Siri is faster, more reliable, and more responsive, other apps are much more useable, battery life is improved, etc etc. Much of the improvement on series 2 was invisible, but it helps.
- martin_bech 9y agoBatterylife and responsiveness are way better on v2. And it adds waterresistance. love my v2.
- uniclaude 9y agoCellular coming to Apple Watch finally makes it a usable product for me, Apple Music being the killer app. Question is then, will Spotify and Google Music ever come to Apple Watch?
- thecity2 9y agoI'm not buying one until Spotify has an app for it. I'm not switching to Apple Music just to get a watch.
- socialist_coder 9y agoSeriously. Lack of syncing Spotify & podcasts for offline playback is a deal breaker.
- madeofpalk 9y agoMy understanding is that the audio/music playing APIs are extremely limited and would be problematic for implementing a music player, let alone a streaming app.
- com2kid 9y agoMaking messaging on the watch with a separate cellular connection work seamless with messaging on the phone is an amazing symphony of cloud services. Apple is currently, IMHO, the only company with the cloud service ability to pull this off. Google Voice is a close second, but that hasn't been moved forward in quite awhile. It is amazing how hard multi-homing has ended up being. Facebook Messenger has it working correctly, and the new chat apps that store all state in the cloud, e.g. Slack or Microsoft Teams, also pull it off. Maintaining reasonable battery life with an always on LTE is also to be commended. Wireless is a huge power drain, providing low latency, low power, messaging is hard. FWIW, just having an LTE chip that never needs to turn on is easy, a fresh install of any mobile OS with no messaging apps installed will last for days. Put a single app that needs real time(ish) messaging delivery on board and watch the battery life drop in half.
- aphextron 9y agoI remember really wanting one a couple years ago and scoffing at the price when I realized there was no LTE. This sounds like a game changer for sure. I can see people completely replacing their phones with these.
- nailer 9y agoHuh weird. I'm in Edge (a supported browser) and it still says 'Live video will begin at 10 a.m. PDT.' - it's apparently 10:52 PDT now.
- pavlov 9y ago<ThatGuy> Samsung introduced 3G connectivity in the Samsung Gear S2 already two years ago, and added 4G LTE in the Gear S3 last year. </ThatGuy>
- pluma 9y agoIsn't it incredible how Apple invented this and then went back in time so Samsung could steal it two years ago? They always do this. If only they'd learn not to go back in time and have people steal their ideas.
- saagarjha 9y agoNobody here is saying that Apple was the first to add cellular capability to their watches. They're just glad to see it as a new feature.
- pavlov 9y agoThe Apple keynote made a pretty big deal about innovations that enabled the LTE features. They didn't explicitly say that those were Apple innovations, though.
- djrogers 9y agoCompare the size of either Apple Watch to a Samsung LTE watch - even the larger 42mm Apple Watch is comfortably smaller than the Gear, and the 38 makes the Gear look like you're wearing a yo-yo on your wrist. That size/battery life stuff is what took all the work, and why Apple waited until it was able to ship without the compromises.
- 8_hours_ago 9y agoWill the cellular piggyback on your existing service, or will it require a new line? Here's the list of countries and carriers that it will work with: http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-september-2017-iphone-8-launch/images/IMG_0195.JPG http://live.arstechnica.com/apples-september-2017-iphone-8-l...
- djrogers 9y agoThat's going to be up to your carrier. In the US AT&T and T-Mobile seem to be charging $10 for watches, and Verizon charges $5 if it shares a phone number or $20 if it has it's own.
- wlesieutre 9y agoAlso curious if it's available to people on obscure prepaid plans. I'm on T-mobile's $30 unlimited data+texting / 100 voice minutes. Not looking at a new smartwatch until my pebble dies, and not that excited about $70 for built-in LTE (especially if there are ongoing monthly charges), but I'm curious.
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- thecity2 9y agoYou'll probably have to pay around $10 to add cellular for the watch, similar to how it works for the iPad plan.
- madeofpalk 9y agoDefine 'new line'. It'll piggyback on your phone's phone number at an additional charge (up to the carrier)
- 6nf 9y agoPiggy-back. You do not get a separate phone number for your watch. They will charge you $5 or $10 a month for the 'wearable device'.
- kolbe 9y agoHonestly, it's worth thinking about if I could happily live my life with just this watch and ditching the phone all together.
- ForrestN 9y agoMy dream is to have the watch, and then a cell-enabled iPad in my backpack for when I need more space. It would be perfect!
- eggpy 9y agoAgreed! I use an SE because I already want my phone to be as small and basically incapable as possible (with decent UX), and then a laptop when I want to do something a bit more distracting. Text + maps + music is all I really want on me at all times.
- pound 9y agoThat would be so great, but they need to figure out camera (taking photos is still a big part of what phone in my pocket is used for)
- toomuchtodo 9y agoiPhone 6/6s/7 with data only SIM, no apps installed might work for your use case. EDIT: From your comment, I wasn't sure if it was to get rid of the physical phone, or to have a simpler life without all of the distractions a smartphone brings. Sorry about that. It was too late to delete my comment after you replied.
- pound 9y agothat's not exactly ditching phone all together.. EDIT: All good :) Actually right now my phone already has minimum number of apps installed exactly in attempt to avoid unnecesary use/distractions, with watch only it may be even better (plus one less thing to carry (pocket or not))
- mrsmee89 9y agoI don't want an iPhone (or any phone for that matter). I want this. Being reachable, listening to music and gps is all I want from a "phone". Anyone know if carriers will charge extra for the watch. Cook said something about "great introductory rates" from carriers but I'm not if that refers to the watch or the service.
- JohnTHaller 9y agoIf it's another thing with a connection to a carrier network, it's another thing you have to pay an additional monthly fee for on all US carriers. I'd wager Apple is negotiating 'discount' 2nd/3rd/4th line rates with the carriers that will sell the Apple Watch in their retail locations, so it may be less than adding another full line on some carriers.
- mrsmee89 9y agoI hope not. I'm paying for access to the network via a phone number. This remains unchanged when I use my watch. Anyone have a different perspective?
- Jarwain 9y agoI feel like the core question/goal/ideal is to have two sim chips linked to the same number, so that requests (such as phone calls/texts) are cloned and sent to both devices. I'd think that'd require some reconfiguration on their backend service though. I'm not too familiar with how telecoms work.
- mrpippy 9y agoLinking to the same number happens at the iCloud level. Apple already has hooks in place with carriers to enable "Wi-Fi Calling on iCloud-connected devices", so an iPad/Mac can make/answer calls from the cellular number of an iCloud-linked iPhone (without going through the iPhone at all). The LTE Apple Watch is just another device like that. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203032 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203032
- The_Thinker 9y agoThe form factor is great on these. I see so many smartwatches with a circular screen, that just seems so inefficient to me. A square screen is so much better for usability.
- Kiro 9y agoCan you surf the web on it? That's all I do on my phone.
- saagarjha 9y agoNo, since there's no web browser available.
- diminish 9y agoPhablets won over <4" smartphones. In a similar fashion "whones" which have large landscape screens with voice control could be cool. So primary use for smartphones isn't making calls and similarly "whones" should leave behind the "showing time" functionality.
- mgiannopoulos 9y agoWhat is the difference with existing android smart watches with a SIM card? http://smartwatches.org/learn/best-standalone-smartwatch-options/ http://smartwatches.org/learn/best-standalone-smartwatch-opt...
- tooltalk 9y agoanybody know how this cell version compares to Samsung Gear S3 frontier (https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SM-R760NDAAXAR-Gear-S3-Frontier/dp/B01M7MDK5S https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SM-R760NDAAXAR-Gear-S3-Fronti...)?
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- shadykiller 9y agoI wish they had included the rumored continuous glucose monitor. That would've made me line up outside the store
- Troyboy 9y agoWow LTE, that's awesome. I hope it doesn't affect the battery life too much.
- puranjay 9y agoI've switched to Bluetooth earphones for my daily run. Still have to carry the phone though, which I hate. An Apple Watch that can play my music through my Bluetooth earphones is a game changer for me.
- X-Istence 9y agoYou could already load music onto your Apple Watch from your iTunes library and then pair your Bluetooth headphones with your watch. The only thing this changed is allowing you to use LTE to stream music instead of having a static playlist.
- culturestate 9y agoThe time required to actually sync music to the Watch (and the inability, until watchOS 4, to have multiple playlists) is what has always killed this for me. It's just too much faffing about. As far as I'm concerned, the LTE Watch cannot arrive fast enough.
- eyeball 9y agoI wonder if they'll let me add it to an old grandfathered unlimited plan on att.
- zie 9y agoDoubtful, this is a perfect way to force customers wanting the watch into their new plans, which are almost always worse.
- alexashka 9y agoThis feels like the killer product from the presentation. The no home-button iphone feels like 'meh, I don't mind having a button there at all actually', the 4k apple tv might be nice for people who enjoy sports, while this is the feature everyone has been waiting for. It appeals to women because fashion, and appeals to men who don't need to check social media/message/calendar on a daily basis. A total win for everybody involved. The pricetag for what it is, I find to be too much, but it's Apple, so.
- LeoPanthera 9y ago> It appeals to women because fashion, and appeals to men who don't need to check social media/message/calendar on a daily basis. How extraordinarily sexist.
- skrause 9y ago> Q: Can I use my Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) internationally? > A: Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) does not support international roaming. From the FAQ section of the Apple Watch page in the Store. I'm wondering why the device has to support roaming, isn't that just a feature of the cellular provider?
- tempay 9y agoThis is a blind guess but I wonder if the shared phone number between devices has trouble with roaming.
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- Xixi 9y agoIt might be a technological issue: standards (GSM, CDMA) and allowed frequencies vary a lot from country to country. The chip in this Apple Watch might be too specific? If it's a purely contractual issue, it should be gone soon (for a fee): too much money to be made from international roaming.
- 8ytecoder 9y agoUnlikely, the chips in iPhones have been carrier neutral for at least a couple of generations now.
- Xixi 9y agoiPhones are bigger and have more power: the chip in the Apple Watch might be different. It's just an hypothesis.
- maxerickson 9y agoThey don't seem to list regional models for the bands: https://www.apple.com/watch/cellular/ https://www.apple.com/watch/cellular/
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- edko 9y agoDoes anybody know if it is completely independent from a phone, as in: no need to even own one?
- gigatexal 9y agoSounds like it’s still tied to the phone you can just take it places and leave the phone behind.
- larkost 9y agoIt needs to be setup using your phone, and also needs to be tied to the same telephone number. So you don't get a separate number (or bill), rather this is an add-on to your cell phone bill.
- overcast 9y agoThe only thing I'm interested in with this new Watch, is the heart study. I'm VERY interested if they have this monitoring mastered without the chest strap. Super useful for me.
- brandonb 9y agoIf you don't want to wait, we launched a study with UCSF Cardiology which showed 97% accuracy at detecting atrial fibrillation in May: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cardiogram/id1000017994?ls=1&mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cardiogram/id1000017994?ls=1... cnbc.com/2017/05/11/apple-watch-uses-cardiogram-to-screen-for-heart-rhythm-abnormalities.html
- overcast 9y agoSo the Apple Watch is in an accurate heart rate monitor? Or is high precision not needed for testing for this abnormality? I want highly accurate rate monitoring throughout the day, especially on long hikes.
- peterarmstrong 9y agoI've found mine is accurate as long as it is snug. But if it's not snug, it can be way off. Also, when I first tried it I had wrist pain, and learned that I actually was "wearing it wrong". Moving it further up my arm fixed it, and now it's literally my favourite device.
- overcast 9y agoHrmm. I'll await the in depth reviews. For now, my chest strap will keep monitoring for me.
- peterarmstrong 9y agoI'm talking about Series 2. Series 3 isn't available yet. But Series 3 is supposedly same size as Series 2, except the thing that sticks out of the back is "2 sheets of paper thicker", to use Apple's new contribution to the imperial system :) So my guess is it will be the same: just as good as my Polar chest strap when snug, and off when, well, off.
- protomyth 9y agoFrom the bottom of the page: Apple Watch Series 3 (GPS + Cellular) requires an iPhone 6 or later with iOS 11 or later. Apple Watch and iPhone service provider must be the same. Not available with all service providers. Roaming is not available outside your carrier network coverage area. Wireless service plan required for cellular service. Contact your service provider for more details. Check apple.com/watch/cellular for participating wireless carriers and eligibility. So, using it as a cellular device by itself would seem to be impossible.
- URSpider94 9y agoCan't tell 100%, but it looks as if you will still need a companion iPhone as the "master" device. So, you won't be able to use the watch as a stand-alone phone.
- jessewmc 9y agoI wonder if there is a technical reason for that or if they aren't ready for possible cannibalisation yet. I was really hoping it wouldn't require a phone at all.
- askafriend 9y agoIt probably piggy backs off the SIM information from the "Master" device (which is the phone in this case).
- JigglyGigalo 9y agoSo it has a software SIM? If so it's the first time I've heard of a device with one.
- et-al 9y agoYup. They call it an eSIM: https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/12/the-cellular-enabled-apple-watch-has-the-sim-built-in/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/12/the-cellular-enabled-apple... "The eSIM has to be provisioned via the device itself, which is handy if you want to switch between T-Mobile and AT&T in a hurry, but not handy if you want to switch to a carrier not supported by Apple, or sell your device to someone on a different carrier."
- antoniuschan99 9y agoThis was an exciting keynote because of three things: Apple Watch 3 in Cellular, iPhone X, & the Wireless charging mat.
- hatcherdogg 9y agoThis is the first time I have actually wanted an Apple Watch. My first iPhone was a 4, and by then it was pretty damn good. This watch feels that way too.
- xwvvvvwx 9y agoMade me giggle that the ad for this is some surfer being totally in the middle of an amazing moment and then getting distracted by a phone call. I really like my apple watch, but this really isn't selling it...
- WA 9y agoHaha yes. "Dave, could you send me this PDF real quick?"
- joesb 9y agoThe same can be said about mobile phone when it was first introduced. "Look at that mobile phone ad, he was spending time with his family outside the house and then getting distracted by a phone call! This would never happen if we only have landline phone!"
- jacobush 9y agoStill true though.
- rhodysurf 9y agoyeah I'm a surfer and I have an apple watch. never once have I wanted the ability to use my phone while surfing, it's the antithesis of the entire activity. that video made me laugh
- fineline 9y agoSurfer here too, I've said it before about waterproof phones, anyone start making calls in the lineup deserves what's coming to them.
- monk_e_boy 9y agoKite surfer here, we use them to control go pros (which are out of reach, say up in your lines or on the kite) also for data read outs from Woo sensor (a trick and jump height monitor) I bet other water sports are using these watches in similar ways. E.g. GPS
- LeicaLatte 9y agoLTE is a great addition but disappointed Apple Watch 3 has no new sensors. See you next year Apple Watch!
- jordansmithnz 9y agoActually, I believe it has a barometric altimeter, for measuring height - e.g. flights of stairs climbed.
- Q6T46nT668w6i3m 9y agoIt’s also useful for climbing situations. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’d survive alpine conditions.
- patmurraydev 9y agoApple specifically called out skiing and boarding in the keynote when they mentioned the altimeter. Which I'm really excited for! Plus the current generations work fine in alpine conditions, from personal experience.
- robotresearcher 9y agoQuick calls and messages by Siri without taking my gloves off on the lift. Nice.
- 6nf 9y agoIt works in the cold fairly well since the heat of your wrist keeps the battery from freezing. In my skiing experience my phone often shuts down in the cold to protect the battery but the watch is always fine.
- ojbyrne 9y agoUnlike most of the other commenters here, I'd like to have both a phone and a watch with my existing provider. However I wouldn't really be happy if there was an additional monthly cost to add the watch.
- mtw 9y agoThis is a life saver for those who spend time outdoors and can't or don't like to carry phones. I run for example for hours in the Canadian winter and the idea of having an emergency phone is attractive, in case I fall, or maybe there's a big issue at home. Another alternative would be an iPhone SE but sadly we are in the era of oversized phones. I would also love it to have more Bluetooth integration (continuous glucose monitoring is a good first step), and continuously monitor more health data in general: hydration, temperature. Omron is working on a watch that measures blood pressure. The last step is food intake monitoring but I guess we will need a couple more iterations and more sensors (onboard camera?) to get the Watch record that
- peterarmstrong 9y agoNo Rogers yet, so this may get people switching to Bell (ugh) or Telus...
- perseusprime11 9y agoNot just runs, you can also use it to have quality time on date mights without worrying about checking your phone all the time.
- stouset 9y agoThis is also phenomenal for when you're battery-limited. You can turn off one of the two devices and save its battery for if you really, absolutely, must need to make a phone call at some later point in the day.
- winkywooster 9y agoI spend hours running outside in the winter, too, and find that electronics of any form are mostly unreliable when it gets cold enough. I run with a Garmin GPS watch, and after several hours of single digit temperatures (F), the watch will often die. Phones don't even last that long. I doubt these will be any better in the same situation.
- photojosh 9y agoYep, cold destroys battery capacity. You need to keep the device next to your skin.
- chejazi 9y agoDelegating access to a resource protected by a SIM card seems dangerous if not executed with meticulous security considerations - both technical and behavioral.
- thinkr42 9y agoThis is a relatively small problem - that sure is one ugly red knob on the side. I don't think it jives with the design at all and looks cartoonish. Otherwise, seems like a decent upgrade
- robotresearcher 9y agoA very important part of the value of this watch - like all expensive watches - is social signalling. The red crown signals you have the new watch. Don't get me wrong: it's a cool gadget and the LTE and music streaming makes it quite desirable. But this is also a fashion accessory, unapologetically.
- blunte 9y agoI am probably out of touch, but the idea of wearing a watch that cannot go a full day without a recharge seems... well, like having a car that can get you to work and halfway home before going dead. Incomplete. I wear a Garmin vivoactive HR watch that does a lot, but certainly not all that an Apple watch does; but it goes about a week on a charge. One feature I like of smartwatches is the sleep tracking. But with the Apple watch, wouldn't you need to charge it while you slept? Otherwise you'd be taking it off some part of each day to charge it.
- yequalsx 9y ago30 years ago some would have said the idea of not being able to years without a battery recharge seems....
- sliverstorm 9y agoThere's definitely a threshold of intolerability though. Somewhere between the points of: - charge when you notice you're low (weekly or more) - charge as a matter of routine (daily-ish) - obsessively hunt your tiny overlord's next power fix, living life as a series of trips from outlet to outlet (multiple times daily)
- yequalsx 9y agoTrue, but if it lasts all day I don't see the problem with charging it when I'm not using it. Also, should they not produce the device because of this pain point? With new technology there will be pain points. This is to be expected.
- dfischer 9y agoI take mine off when I get to bed and put it on the nightstand where it just drops onto my charger without much effort. If I don't charge it, it'll usually last until the next day. It'll last in low power mode giving a time for up to 2-3 days.
- Nition 9y agoWe need a phone watch like the Pebble with an ePaper screen.
- odammit 9y agoId love to get the Apple Watch for the heart rate and fitness functionality, but I don't believe they have addressed the tattoo issue yet. Certainly hadn't in the Apple Watch 2... Anyone know?
- scentoni 9y agoObligatory Robert Tinney Byte cover: https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1981-04 https://archive.org/details/byte-magazine-1981-04
- BartSaM 9y agoThe one thing that everyone besides a quite limited group of people is asking for many years - battery - gives no change. Give people 1-week battery life. Otherwise just stay a gizmo.
- valuearb 9y agoThis gizmo is the best selling watch in the world, so maybe everyone isn't asking for more battery life?
- 6nf 9y agoCellphones used to have a 1 week battery life. The market spoke. We care more about weight than charging frequency. Sorry for those of you who have other preferences but this is not changing any time soon.
- BartSaM 9y agoI wish that the other 99.5% of people that do not own Apple Watch actually mean something to Apple then. I wonder why so many Apple "defenders" are passive aggressive... Being a user is one thing, but being passive aggressive over a tech product have no explanation.
- 6nf 9y agoThe reality is that Apple can't fit all the features (e.g. bright colour screen) in a watch AND have a battery big enough for 7 days of juice. It's just not physically possible. They could make the watch super chunky but then almost nobody would buy it. Everyone wants long battery life but it's not that simple. If the tradeoff is having a huge, ugly watch then most people opt to simply charge daily like we already do for our phones.
- AndrejXY 9y agoCurious about hardware differences across markets. I bought my previous gen 2 watch in Japan, so it came with the Suica feature (which my phone lacks). Will they again limit this feature to Japan sales? And then, will LTE be different (optimized to frequencies) from country to country, given the small size?
- H1Supreme 9y agoWhen these are less hideous, and actually negate my need for a phone, I'll consider one. Or, when we get Star Wars holograms from them. Then too.