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> The problem is a strong multiparty system can get fringe elements in power. But as demonstrated, a two-party system can (will?) eventually lead to polarizati

> The problem is a strong multiparty system can get fringe elements in power. But as demonstrated, a two-party system can (will?) eventually lead to polarization, causing one of the only two options in the system to become a fringe element, and unfortunately the only option the people have now are the democrats or a party of right-wing extremists who are anti-woman, anti-poor, anti-education, anti-science, and white supremacists, all while lying about anything they can to make people afraid of anything that will drive them to vote Republican. In other words, a multi-party system might end up with fringe elements, but we've proven that the two-party system can not only do that but effectively force a huge number of people to vote for that fringe element.

arca_vorago 9y ago
I don't have time to go into the length I want, but this comment is a perfect example of the myopia that polarizes peoples opinions. Both parties are equally part of the problem, and the people on both sides who fail to see that are also, including comments like yours. Please, don't try and turn this into a whataboutism and argue how much worse one party is, that's the trite and cliche response we always here that never addresses root causal issues. Rant about your comment aside, after long deliberation this is why I support the unparty movement, the people could get enough third party people in to take away the majority from both parties. Congress (and the rest of gov) needs to be reminded they work for the people. Right now, both parties work for themselves and those that corrupt/black mail/threaten them.
- TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
  > Both parties are equally part of the problem, and the people on both sides who fail to see that are also, including comments like yours. Be careful not to cause useless agurments. Both sides are at fault, of course, and it should be obvious that one side is currently more extreme than the other, just like the post above said. Such partisanship is a failure of the two-party political system that amplifies an us-vs-them mentality that people naturally get when under stress. > this is why I support the unparty movement I assume the unparty movement is a movement to completely remove parties, which wouldn't work in my opinion. It ignores the human tendency to form groups, and makes negotiations difficult if you don't have at least some centralization of power or method of organization. A multiparty system is a better balance IMO because it maintains natural human hierarchies while easing the adaptation of the government to changing demographics with different needs.
gozur88 9y ago
Neither party is a "fringe element" by definition. Half the people in the country can't be a "fringe".

arca_vorago 9y ago

I don't have time to go into the length I want, but this comment is a perfect example of the myopia that polarizes peoples opinions. Both parties are equally part of the problem, and the people on both sides who fail to see that are also, including comments like yours. Please, don't try and turn this into a whataboutism and argue how much worse one party is, that's the trite and cliche response we always here that never addresses root causal issues. Rant about your comment aside, after long deliberation this is why I support the unparty movement, the people could get enough third party people in to take away the majority from both parties. Congress (and the rest of gov) needs to be reminded they work for the people. Right now, both parties work for themselves and those that corrupt/black mail/threaten them.

TheAdamAndChe 9y ago
> Both parties are equally part of the problem, and the people on both sides who fail to see that are also, including comments like yours. Be careful not to cause useless agurments. Both sides are at fault, of course, and it should be obvious that one side is currently more extreme than the other, just like the post above said. Such partisanship is a failure of the two-party political system that amplifies an us-vs-them mentality that people naturally get when under stress. > this is why I support the unparty movement I assume the unparty movement is a movement to completely remove parties, which wouldn't work in my opinion. It ignores the human tendency to form groups, and makes negotiations difficult if you don't have at least some centralization of power or method of organization. A multiparty system is a better balance IMO because it maintains natural human hierarchies while easing the adaptation of the government to changing demographics with different needs.

gozur88 9y ago

Neither party is a "fringe element" by definition. Half the people in the country can't be a "fringe".