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This and the other MB announcement come at interesting times. Both these companies are slightly on the back foot in Germany. BMW supposedly took the strategic r

This and the other MB announcement come at interesting times. Both these companies are slightly on the back foot in Germany. BMW supposedly took the strategic route of redirecting investment into electric a while back. they already have the i3 and the i8 (which, depending on how you look at it, could be the most beautiful or the most ugly car in the world) and in a few months the X7 hybrid SUV. VW has Golf and Passat hybrids, whereas MB just discontinued their B series leaving them with no electrics at all. BMW had nothing to show for the last few years going up against MB's latest line-up refresh and the poor sales over the last few years reflects how dated-looking BMWs have been. I'm thinking BMW has another ICE refresh to go before they too go fully electric/hybrid, and it might happen sooner rather than later. Tesla is probably an important competitor but at the moment I'm more likely to believe BMW, Audi and MB could pull off a production capacity of a million+ hybrids per year each by 2020 if they put themselves to it. * I wrote a similar comment in the MB submission.

mtmail 9y ago
The i8 are hybrids with two engines. BMW sold an e-Mini 2009 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_E https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_E and announced to release the next version 2019 http://www.businessinsider.de/bmw-electric-mini-concept-frankfurt-motor-show-2017-8?op=1&r=US&IR=T http://www.businessinsider.de/bmw-electric-mini-concept-fran... edit: corrected what I said about the i3, there are full electric versions
- devy 9y ago
  i3 not only has the hybrid trim (called REx, range extender with a motorcycle engine to recharge), but also has a BEV (battery EV, 100% electric) trim. I owned one of the i3 BEV for 2 years. And yes, the 2009 Mini-E (based on a modified Mini Cooper) was a limited production trial, as well as the 2011 BMW ActiveE (based on a modified 1-series). Both were predecessors of BMW i3.
spectrum1234 9y ago
The most ugly. These are literally the ugliest things I have ever seen. I have no idea what BMW is thinking. And I used to own a 330i. disclaimer, I have eyes

mtmail 9y ago

The i8 are hybrids with two engines. BMW sold an e-Mini 2009 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_E https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_E and announced to release the next version 2019 http://www.businessinsider.de/bmw-electric-mini-concept-frankfurt-motor-show-2017-8?op=1&r=US&IR=T http://www.businessinsider.de/bmw-electric-mini-concept-fran... edit: corrected what I said about the i3, there are full electric versions

devy 9y ago
i3 not only has the hybrid trim (called REx, range extender with a motorcycle engine to recharge), but also has a BEV (battery EV, 100% electric) trim. I owned one of the i3 BEV for 2 years. And yes, the 2009 Mini-E (based on a modified Mini Cooper) was a limited production trial, as well as the 2011 BMW ActiveE (based on a modified 1-series). Both were predecessors of BMW i3.

spectrum1234 9y ago

The most ugly. These are literally the ugliest things I have ever seen. I have no idea what BMW is thinking. And I used to own a 330i. disclaimer, I have eyes