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Seems like there's a (difficulty/physical file size)/(profit or effort)*(likelihood of success) score that matters in these things: a terabyte of credit card nu
by traviscj 9y ago
Seems like there's a (difficulty/physical file size)/(profit or effort)*(likelihood of success) score that matters in these things: a terabyte of credit card numbers (alone) would be 62.5 billion card numbers, but a terabyte of facebook chat messages/private pictures is some small fraction of data. It'd be much easier for O(20 mb) to move off the network than O(500 GB). The former can be profitably resold, while the latter requires a careful search to find high value data (e.g. pictures like the fappening, I guess?) and no foolproof profit mechanism. And the sheer size brings other problems like how to store it and how to exfiltrate it and deal with it without being noticed. And of course, if you ARE good at all of the above, why not give in to a chill life in SF instead of a "life of crime" and all the volatility/violence/cloak-and-dagger that goes with it?
Not saying a Facebook/Google data breach isn't terrifying -- it certainly is, and the privacy implications are indeed upsetting -- but the profitability path is just not as clear.
The "Russian propagandists" angle from the article is interesting, but seems a bit separate from the "FB has a shitload of data on people" problem. It's basically using the ad/social aspects of the service as designed: changing people's perspectives on something you want them to feel differently about. (Albeit aimed at a different target!) Not sure how to solve that problem.
- 21 9y agoWhat's the value of a credit card number? It can quickly be changed and you would be hard pressed to exploit a billion of them at the same time. What's the value of a psychological profile built from FB data? People say Trump won the election because Cambridge Analytica built a psychological profile of most Americans and targeted them with customized propaganda. Probably an exaggeration, but it's early days. This will only get better. Can you make your psychological profile invalid the same way you can change your credit card number?
- ben_w 9y ago> you would be hard pressed to exploit a billion of them at the same time. Really? A billion automated orders for something, followed by the banking system having a metaphorical heart attack and either cancelling lots of/all cards (breaking normal usage until the card printers can catch up), or few/no cards (and risking further, directly exploitable, fraud)? Sounds like a potent way to successful fight a nation-state from a coffee shop.
- solomatov 9y agoYou're thinking in terms of today. Network throughput keeps growing and 500GB in 10 years might become really little. We should think ahead not try to fix it after the disaster.