> I’m not convinced similar censorship/propaganda can stop more serious problems which entail actual violence I think a more useful framing of this is whether

> I’m not convinced similar censorship/propaganda can stop more serious problems which entail actual violence I think a more useful framing of this is whether and how it changes the situation. I don't think anyone is arguing that this stops it, but it's not hard to imagine that given these two alternatives ((a) provide forums where a given behavior is allowed and (b) censor forums where a given behavior is allowed) that it might have some impact. And let's be clear: it's not like this is a single-argument function or that there's only a single value that's being optimized. If it were only so simple :)