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It would help them the most -- getting rid of grocery stores that sell low quality, sugary mass produced foods and going back to local micro farmers markets is

It would help them the most -- getting rid of grocery stores that sell low quality, sugary mass produced foods and going back to local micro farmers markets is in what form of reality a bad thing?

fish_fan 9y ago
Many places don't have local micro farmers markets, and even if they did, groceries sell a LOT of food. Are you sure your local farm and meet demand at an affordable cost? You seem to be reductive.
flachsechs 9y ago
either those people can't afford locally produced food, or the farmers can't afford to do it at the prices they'd demand. people need affordable supermarkets. this isn't complicated, it's unfortunately just not very profitable to serve these people.
- iamleppert 9y ago
  Every local farmers market I've been to has been less expensive than a grocery store. I literally come away with enough food for the week at half the cost of the grocery store produce (Safeway for me). Whole Foods? Probably 1/4th the cost. Really, truly what I'm saying is true. For people who don't even have a grocery store, I think things like community gardens (a garden that is shared between a block of neighbors) is a perfectly scalable, healthy and affordable solution.
  - flachsechs 9y ago
    you are seriously out of touch with what life is like in a place so impoverished it can't even sustain a good grocery store.
cortesoft 9y ago
The people referenced in the article don't even HAVE grocery stores, they just have things like 7/11 or other quicky marts.
- djrogers 9y ago
  > The people referenced in the article don't even HAVE grocery stores That's largely bunk - the definition of a 'food desert' is far from what the media would have you believe: "In the U.S., a food desert consists of a low income census tract residing at least 0.5 miles in urban areas ... from the large grocery store." Living 0.6 miles from a grocery store != not having a grocery store....
  - ng12 9y ago
    "The USDA defines what's considered a food desert and which areas will be helped by this initiative: To qualify as a “low-access community,” at least 500 people and/or at least 33 percent of the census tract's population must reside more than one mile from a supermarket or large grocery store (for rural census tracts, the distance is more than 10 miles)." [1] Traveling over a mile to a grocery store is a big deal for somebody without a car -- especially if they're elderly, disabled, or have children. 1. http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defines-food-deserts http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defi...

It would help them the most -- getting rid of grocery stores that sell low quality, sugary mass produced foods and going back to local micro farmers markets is in what form of reality a bad thing?

fish_fan 9y ago

Many places don't have local micro farmers markets, and even if they did, groceries sell a LOT of food. Are you sure your local farm and meet demand at an affordable cost? You seem to be reductive.

flachsechs 9y ago

either those people can't afford locally produced food, or the farmers can't afford to do it at the prices they'd demand. people need affordable supermarkets. this isn't complicated, it's unfortunately just not very profitable to serve these people.

iamleppert 9y ago
Every local farmers market I've been to has been less expensive than a grocery store. I literally come away with enough food for the week at half the cost of the grocery store produce (Safeway for me). Whole Foods? Probably 1/4th the cost. Really, truly what I'm saying is true. For people who don't even have a grocery store, I think things like community gardens (a garden that is shared between a block of neighbors) is a perfectly scalable, healthy and affordable solution.
- flachsechs 9y ago
  you are seriously out of touch with what life is like in a place so impoverished it can't even sustain a good grocery store.

cortesoft 9y ago

The people referenced in the article don't even HAVE grocery stores, they just have things like 7/11 or other quicky marts.

djrogers 9y ago
> The people referenced in the article don't even HAVE grocery stores That's largely bunk - the definition of a 'food desert' is far from what the media would have you believe: "In the U.S., a food desert consists of a low income census tract residing at least 0.5 miles in urban areas ... from the large grocery store." Living 0.6 miles from a grocery store != not having a grocery store....
- ng12 9y ago
  "The USDA defines what's considered a food desert and which areas will be helped by this initiative: To qualify as a “low-access community,” at least 500 people and/or at least 33 percent of the census tract's population must reside more than one mile from a supermarket or large grocery store (for rural census tracts, the distance is more than 10 miles)." [1] Traveling over a mile to a grocery store is a big deal for somebody without a car -- especially if they're elderly, disabled, or have children. 1. http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defines-food-deserts http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/usda-defi...