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Make Mark Zuckerberg Testify
- Jeremy1026 9y agoWell, testifying would put a big hitch in his political career I bet.
- dickbasedregex 9y agoGood! Can we not have a near perfect crop of complete losers next time? No one wants Zuck anymore than Hillary. Seems like a good way to lock in 4 more years of regret.
- sokoloff 9y ago/me raises hand that I'd rather have Mark than Hillary. It's not so much that I agree with everything he says or stands for and I most certainly appreciate but don't idolize him. I'd rather have nearly any tech-savvy outsider than at least half the major party primary candidates last year.
- aaron-lebo 9y agoBeing tech savvy is a poor qualification for leading the free world. He should get his own kingdom in order first.
- Markoff 9y agoleading the free world? you really mean US is some leader of free world? in what filed exactly? living standard, healthcare, education, internet, etc? because I fail to see pretty much any positive field in which US would be world leader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs
- TeMPOraL 9y agoIt's a well-known historical phrase. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World#Leader_of_the_Free_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World#Leader_of_the_Free_.... Whether it is accurate now is another topic, though.
- Markoff 9y agoapparently only Americans use this phrase, for everyone else it sound arrogant
- idle_processor 9y agoI'd prefer someone less complicit in establishing the surveillance state.
- sokoloff 9y agoLess complicit than Mark is what I assume you mean, though it was ambiguous in my mind whether you meant "than either of those two".
- jackhack 9y agoAre we able to call someone who has been heavily funded by three-letter agencies for the benefit of mass surveillance, an "outsider?"
- 1337biz 9y agoDon't worry. I think is charisma for a mainstream crowd is up on par with Shkreli.
- aaronbrethorst 9y agoMore than 60 million people wanted Hillary to be president. It was a larger number than the number that wanted our current President.
- drzaiusapelord 9y ago>No one wants Zuck anymore than Hillary. Hillary won millions more votes than Trump. Trump is at historic disapproval levels for a president at his time in office.
- spaceflunky 9y agoIt's funny how $100k of pro-Trump facebook ads by a foreign entity is a crime against humanity. But like Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries [0] or the US getting involved in god knows how many other elections is like totally... meh. [0] http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-...
- justboxing 9y ago> But like Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries The source you quoted shows nothing about 'Obama actively campaigning for politicians in other countries'. In fact it exonerates him of your charges. The most recent US interference in a foreign election (quoted in your source) was in 2000, when Dubya was President. You could arguable attribute that to Bill Clinton, since the groundwork would have to have been laid earlier than 2000. > In 2000, the U.S. spent millions of dollars in aid for political parties, campaign costs and independent media. Funding and broadcast equipment provided to the media arms of the opposition were a decisive factor in electing opposition candidate Vojislav Kostunica as Yugoslav president, according to Levin. “If it wouldn’t have been for overt intervention … Milosevic would have been very likely to have won another term,” he said. Obama would come to power a full 2 terms later.
- fortythirteen 9y agoWikileaks showed CIA interference in the 2012 French elections[0] [0] - https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/ https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/
- bryananderson 9y agoNot that I am one to defend George W. Bush, but he was not President until January 2001. Whatever else he is guilty of (spoiler: a lot), he is entirely innocent of this, as it happened during the Clinton presidency.
- spaceflunky 9y agoHere are six examples of Obama outwardly interfering in foreign elections. https://spectator.org/obamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-six-examples/ https://spectator.org/obamas-meddling-in-foreign-elections-s...
- mankash666 9y agoWhat exactly is the crime that Facebook committed? Why should Zuck testify? Sensationalist BS
- scott_s 9y agoTestifying before a congressional committee does not mean one is involved with a crime - it may be, but not necessarily so. Congressional committees hold hearings to investigate things, and they ask people to testify about those things to learn what is going on.
- mankash666 9y agoso he's free to decline , given how he hasn't committed a crime?
- scott_s 9y agoYou can be found in contempt of Congress if you decline the subpoena. But keep in mind that people who are subpoenaed to testify in criminal cases but are not a defendant nor suspected of any crime can be found in contempt of court for not testifying. In fact, the only time you can refuse to testify is when you are accused of a crime, as you can invoke the Fifth Amendment. (But in the case of Congressional testimony, you'll still have to show up and assert the Fifth. In a criminal trial where you are the defendant you'd just not take the stand at all.) I am not a lawyer. But as a layperson, I find your objection to be a non-sequitur; I assume that most people who testify before Congress are not suspected of wrong-doing.
- mankash666 9y agoIt's not a non-sequitur. The only reason to drag an innocent person through a congressional hearing is to score political brownie points with constituents. I find that reprehensible, and do not think the visibly popular & successful personalities of our time need to be dragged through a sideshow for someone's political gain
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- Overtonwindow 9y agoThe United States has been disrupting, corrupting, and in some cases, overthrowing elections for decades. Now all of a sudden another country as the audacity to screw with our elections and suddenly everyone is shocked! So much hypocrisy. If you want to really see how an election can be corrupted, and thrown, just wait to Zuckerberg runs for President.
- dogma1138 9y agoThe US funds political activism in countries including western allies constantly and does much worse in less friendly regimes. Russia interfering with US elections is a problem for the US but it's a given fact since the dawn of diplomacy and geopolitics. 21 years ago this was on the cover of Time: http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.html Now everyone is mad because Trump doesn't seem to fit the general agenda of the centrist and left leaning media. I don't like Trump either but bitching about Russia is hypercritical and also pointless. If the climate wasn't right Russia wouldn't been able to get Trump 1000 extra votes. Maybe we should look to how we got to a place where polarizing populist candidates without even the slightest shred of credibility are electable in the first place.