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Android is full of Google suff. I can't hack my android either(i.e. get root-like access, remove stuff I want, run my *nix stuff etc) so as far as the restricti

Android is full of Google suff. I can't hack my android either(i.e. get root-like access, remove stuff I want, run my *nix stuff etc) so as far as the restrictions are concerned the difference btw Android and iOS is not that significant. It pisses me off because it's said Android is OSS but in practice you can't really run AOSP on your Android device nor you can control/own your own device. You basically end-up with a tivoized device. I think you can download pdf/mp3 files and open them in your favorite app on iOS too. Now $1000 is a bit too much so unless it has a killer feature I will skip this upgrade.

TekMol 9y ago
Yes, I have a lot of gripes with Android too. But it's not as restricted as iOS. And no, I don't get any option to download an MP3 from Safari on my iPad.
- themihai 9y ago
  Maybe you don't have apps that play mp3's? Technically it should be possible. See also this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0
  - TekMol 9y ago
    Hmm.. I would have thought there are apps on that iPad that can play MP3s. There is the Apple "Music" app and Spotify on it. But maybe they can't. Looking around the App Store, the apps that play MP3s look rather shady. Anything trustworthy out there to play MP3s? Anyhow, I downloaded one of the apps that can play MP3s. Still, Safari does not offer any way to save them or push them to that app.
pas 9y ago
People have been saying these things for the last decade, and they still bought the next iPhone. And I'm not saying they are wrong. But they bought it for one thing, and that's the "feels" it gives them. It's not Android, they are not buying a phone, they're getting an iPhone(tm). Now, when you can buy a Huawei P-whatever that has the same lines-on-white flat design UI, the same speed, it's not the specs. And yes, the iPhone looks better, the Huawei thing feels bulky in comparison. Does that feel worth 500 USD? That's up to the customers.
- izacus 9y ago
  And customers here in Europe overwhelmingly buy a Huawei (they've just passed Apple in sales). Might be that Android had caught up to iOS enough that iOS doesn't justify the price premium (especially since iPhones here are 800$+).
- themihai 9y ago
  I fell Android is made for the purpose of selling google services. Last time I watched the Android keynote it was all about Google now and how much Google will know about you.
  - pas 9y ago
    Agreed. But you can't make a keynote about kernel development and about Treble.

TekMol 9y ago

Yes, I have a lot of gripes with Android too. But it's not as restricted as iOS. And no, I don't get any option to download an MP3 from Safari on my iPad.

themihai 9y ago
Maybe you don't have apps that play mp3's? Technically it should be possible. See also this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0
- TekMol 9y ago
  Hmm.. I would have thought there are apps on that iPad that can play MP3s. There is the Apple "Music" app and Spotify on it. But maybe they can't. Looking around the App Store, the apps that play MP3s look rather shady. Anything trustworthy out there to play MP3s? Anyhow, I downloaded one of the apps that can play MP3s. Still, Safari does not offer any way to save them or push them to that app.

pas 9y ago

People have been saying these things for the last decade, and they still bought the next iPhone. And I'm not saying they are wrong. But they bought it for one thing, and that's the "feels" it gives them. It's not Android, they are not buying a phone, they're getting an iPhone(tm). Now, when you can buy a Huawei P-whatever that has the same lines-on-white flat design UI, the same speed, it's not the specs. And yes, the iPhone looks better, the Huawei thing feels bulky in comparison. Does that feel worth 500 USD? That's up to the customers.

izacus 9y ago
And customers here in Europe overwhelmingly buy a Huawei (they've just passed Apple in sales). Might be that Android had caught up to iOS enough that iOS doesn't justify the price premium (especially since iPhones here are 800$+).
themihai 9y ago
I fell Android is made for the purpose of selling google services. Last time I watched the Android keynote it was all about Google now and how much Google will know about you.
- pas 9y ago
  Agreed. But you can't make a keynote about kernel development and about Treble.