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I don't get what it is about the iPhone that people are willing to pay a premium for. Is it all just in the marketing? I would not mind paying $1000 for a phon

by TekMol 9y ago

I don't get what it is about the iPhone that people are willing to pay a premium for. Is it all just in the marketing? I would not mind paying $1000 for a phone if it offered any additional value over my $200 Android phone. But I cannot see anything better in the form factor of the iPhone line. And for the software - I have an iPad and I hate the software. It is so restricted. You cannot even do basic tasks like download an mp3/pdf/whatever in your browser and then open it in the app of your choice.

fsloth 9y ago
"You cannot even do basic tasks like download an mp3/pdf/whatever in your browser and then open it the app of your choice." While I agree with your general sentiment I can save and open PDF:s from safari to third party applications just fine on my IPad.
- TekMol 9y ago
  How do you save it? I don't get any option to do that. Only options to directly open it in applications that are registered to open PDF files. That seems to save a copy to the directory of that application. Which is terrible messy and clunky way to deal with files imho. For MP3s I don't get any option other then to open them in Safari.
  - fsloth 9y ago
    "That seems to save a copy to the directory of that application" But that's different from being unable to save :) This is what I meant. I have not found a magic button to bypass the ios sandboxing. Google drive works almost as well for me since I use it anyway.
kk_cz 9y ago
So, why did you pay a premium for iPad when Android tablet at roughly half the price would give you the same functionality? (btw I don't get it either. But I don't see anything special about iPad, hence my question)
- TekMol 9y ago
  Two reasons: 1) It had the best form factor these days. It was the lightest 9.7inch tablet. Nowadays, a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 scores better. 2) iOS is a popular OS, so I wanted to have at least one device running it.
- aianus 9y ago
  120hz refresh rate, brightest screen, best stylus I hate iOS but the hardware is far beyond any android tablet.
- izacus 9y ago
  The hardware is really really good, well supported and it's pretty light with excellent battery life. It's actually not al l that more expensive than Androids either (the new "cheap" iPad is actually on-par or cheaper than Android competitors). Having said that, Apple does make a few funny pricing decisions that pushed me to buy an ASUS Zenpad instead.
themihai 9y ago
Android is full of Google suff. I can't hack my android either(i.e. get root-like access, remove stuff I want, run my *nix stuff etc) so as far as the restrictions are concerned the difference btw Android and iOS is not that significant. It pisses me off because it's said Android is OSS but in practice you can't really run AOSP on your Android device nor you can control/own your own device. You basically end-up with a tivoized device. I think you can download pdf/mp3 files and open them in your favorite app on iOS too. Now $1000 is a bit too much so unless it has a killer feature I will skip this upgrade.
- TekMol 9y ago
  Yes, I have a lot of gripes with Android too. But it's not as restricted as iOS. And no, I don't get any option to download an MP3 from Safari on my iPad.
  - themihai 9y ago
    Maybe you don't have apps that play mp3's? Technically it should be possible. See also this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0
    - TekMol 9y ago
      Hmm.. I would have thought there are apps on that iPad that can play MP3s. There is the Apple "Music" app and Spotify on it. But maybe they can't. Looking around the App Store, the apps that play MP3s look rather shady. Anything trustworthy out there to play MP3s? Anyhow, I downloaded one of the apps that can play MP3s. Still, Safari does not offer any way to save them or push them to that app.
- pas 9y ago
  People have been saying these things for the last decade, and they still bought the next iPhone. And I'm not saying they are wrong. But they bought it for one thing, and that's the "feels" it gives them. It's not Android, they are not buying a phone, they're getting an iPhone(tm). Now, when you can buy a Huawei P-whatever that has the same lines-on-white flat design UI, the same speed, it's not the specs. And yes, the iPhone looks better, the Huawei thing feels bulky in comparison. Does that feel worth 500 USD? That's up to the customers.

by TekMol 9y ago

fsloth 9y ago

"You cannot even do basic tasks like download an mp3/pdf/whatever in your browser and then open it the app of your choice." While I agree with your general sentiment I can save and open PDF:s from safari to third party applications just fine on my IPad.

TekMol 9y ago
How do you save it? I don't get any option to do that. Only options to directly open it in applications that are registered to open PDF files. That seems to save a copy to the directory of that application. Which is terrible messy and clunky way to deal with files imho. For MP3s I don't get any option other then to open them in Safari.
- fsloth 9y ago
  "That seems to save a copy to the directory of that application" But that's different from being unable to save :) This is what I meant. I have not found a magic button to bypass the ios sandboxing. Google drive works almost as well for me since I use it anyway.

kk_cz 9y ago

So, why did you pay a premium for iPad when Android tablet at roughly half the price would give you the same functionality? (btw I don't get it either. But I don't see anything special about iPad, hence my question)

TekMol 9y ago
Two reasons: 1) It had the best form factor these days. It was the lightest 9.7inch tablet. Nowadays, a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 scores better. 2) iOS is a popular OS, so I wanted to have at least one device running it.
aianus 9y ago
120hz refresh rate, brightest screen, best stylus I hate iOS but the hardware is far beyond any android tablet.
izacus 9y ago
The hardware is really really good, well supported and it's pretty light with excellent battery life. It's actually not al l that more expensive than Androids either (the new "cheap" iPad is actually on-par or cheaper than Android competitors). Having said that, Apple does make a few funny pricing decisions that pushed me to buy an ASUS Zenpad instead.

themihai 9y ago

Android is full of Google suff. I can't hack my android either(i.e. get root-like access, remove stuff I want, run my *nix stuff etc) so as far as the restrictions are concerned the difference btw Android and iOS is not that significant. It pisses me off because it's said Android is OSS but in practice you can't really run AOSP on your Android device nor you can control/own your own device. You basically end-up with a tivoized device. I think you can download pdf/mp3 files and open them in your favorite app on iOS too. Now $1000 is a bit too much so unless it has a killer feature I will skip this upgrade.

TekMol 9y ago
Yes, I have a lot of gripes with Android too. But it's not as restricted as iOS. And no, I don't get any option to download an MP3 from Safari on my iPad.
- themihai 9y ago
  Maybe you don't have apps that play mp3's? Technically it should be possible. See also this: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5985729?tstart=0
  - TekMol 9y ago
    Hmm.. I would have thought there are apps on that iPad that can play MP3s. There is the Apple "Music" app and Spotify on it. But maybe they can't. Looking around the App Store, the apps that play MP3s look rather shady. Anything trustworthy out there to play MP3s? Anyhow, I downloaded one of the apps that can play MP3s. Still, Safari does not offer any way to save them or push them to that app.
pas 9y ago
People have been saying these things for the last decade, and they still bought the next iPhone. And I'm not saying they are wrong. But they bought it for one thing, and that's the "feels" it gives them. It's not Android, they are not buying a phone, they're getting an iPhone(tm). Now, when you can buy a Huawei P-whatever that has the same lines-on-white flat design UI, the same speed, it's not the specs. And yes, the iPhone looks better, the Huawei thing feels bulky in comparison. Does that feel worth 500 USD? That's up to the customers.